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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
What many of the silent would like to know, is the zeal of capture, and sentencing displayed by the authorities no where matches their usual behaviour when it comes to run of the mill criminals that include rapists and murderers.
It almost seems as here is a different code, the populace can live with threat posed my normal criminals, but anyone who dares to attack authority it's a whole different story.
And now we know what the plethora of cctv cameras are for, they are not to prevent crime, they are so the police can pick up those recorded after the fact.
But in many cases those rounded up and punished received disproportunate sentences, the likes of which those that actually prey on the public , the criminals never seem to receive.
The thought by many, is this was not justice, but political revenge.
Since I'm sure you have access to the criminal proceedings of EVERY rapists, EVERY murderer, and EVERY criminal, I can see why you would make such a statement.
These people encouraged others to commit crimes. In the US that is a serious offense. Being given FOUR years is nothing. The reality is that you only know about the crimes your media feels are sensational enough to print. You know nothing of what is actually going on in the court room, and nothing of trials.
Of course, there is always the option of moving somewhere else if you think it is so horrible there. Come here. You won't get your meds, or medical treatment, you won't be able to afford a roof over your head, and you can watch "Freedom of Speech" at its finest, a Ku Klux Klan rally.
In the interest of pissing off everyone I can, I'll give you the perspective of someone who has lived (briefly) in the UK and (for most of my life) in the US. Neither are good. Neither are free. Neither are places I would spend the rest of my life unless I was wealthy enough to buy off the cops and the pols. The UK is probably the worse of the two. As Aneirin touches on, the CCTV and the attitude which surrounds it is rather pervasive. It creates an atmosphere and an attitude of statism which I find quite stifling. I won't say there aren't places worse than either, but if I started cutting your arm off you wouldn't say "oh well, at least it's not my head!" now would you?
America is more economically stratified, and I think probably more corporatist. I won't say that for a fact, because I'm not sure, but that is my impression. That translates to a concentration of political power in the UK as opposed to psuedo-capitalist corporatism in the US. Again, neither are good, but the American version is less blatant, less willing to openly tramp on the rights of the individual than that of the UK; Americans, contrary to the stereotypes, seem to favor a subtler, less invasive approach.
As to the KKK, I wouldn't live in a country that didn't allow them their speech. If they do things which are actually injurious to others, they are prosecuted, and if they don't then it is none of our business what they say or think. Stick not thy nose into the business of others.
To conclude, there is very little reason to try and compare the two, because both countries are utterly bum-jumped. Both need drastic, systematic overhaul, and neither is going to get it any time soon.
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