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tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 5:43:46 AM)

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Believe me I think the banksters should be lined up and executed. (not by shooting, not painful enough) But these protesters were just,,,,,, dumb.

Yes, their student loans should be forgiven, because they are simply not educated. The "schools" should issue a full refund. See how easy it could be resolved ?


LOL T

On that we agree. After seeing the video from inside... nope... not all that smart indeed.




Termyn8or -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 6:06:03 AM)

Damn shame too. I mean they have the force, a force described in the forgery as the force of a blind mob.

That forgery is going to be quite useful soon I think. You see this shit is upon us. For almost a decade of my life I had some measure of disdain for my own ancestors for leaving their homelands. Now I understand. I would leave, even though I feel like killing people who say "Love it or leave it". The conditions get to a point where you just can't live. Conditions that may get so bad that you are better off in the wilderness somewhere.

The thing is, it's pretty bad when even the right are wrong. (I DO NOT mean political leaning, I do not use those words in that context)

T^T




searching4mysir -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 6:07:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

What the hell is peaceful about going into a place of business, and causing a scene? I watched about five seconds of it and I was "Oh, HELL no!" They wanna protest? Let them go get jobs or start businesses (I know...a radical concept!) and protest inside their own damn business.


"Let them go get jobs".... lol


Nice intellectual dishonesty...the whole quote included or start businesses

Now is actually a really GOOD time to start your own business, if you have the ingenuity and work ethic for it.




Termyn8or -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 6:09:22 AM)

Something I find out the hard way - if you want to be in business your customers need jobs.

T^T




tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 6:09:52 AM)

I suggest you look up the meaning of that before spouting it around these boards.

Get a job indicates there are jobs to be had. 16% unemployment makes that comment funny.

now, you going to stick around or run like you did from the other one?




SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 6:12:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
The conditions get to a point where you just can't live.
And it won't improve. I recommend you Latin America, specially Chile, Brazil, Peru and Bolivia. Turkey is also an excellent option. Of course your personal roots may be important, or simply your likings. The Union is not a bad choice at all, if you want short-term results. If you can consider Germany, tell me per PM which are your qualifications.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 9:55:02 AM)

Anyone with a decent personality, some drive and the motivation to do so can get "a job" or even two. It may not be the job(s) that person aspires to long term, but I can tell you my grandpa worked his butt off during the depression and even after. He never couldn't "get a job", and he always provided for his family. He did what had to be done.

If the people "occupying" all these places put half that energy into creating rather than bitching, they would be doing well for themselves. Instead, not only do they want everything handed to them on a silver platter, the loans they promised to re-pay in exchange for an education should now just be forgiven because the big meany banks want the money that they promised to pay...paid back.





littlewonder -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 10:04:25 AM)

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The question still unanswered is... were they allowed to leave or were they locked up inside as they claim?

And what of the woman who was arrested outside the building?


We've locked the doors at my former workplace if we felt the protestors might be more of a danger, might be holding weapons, made threats against others, etc...so they would not flee and the deputies would have to chase them down. Did the bank have such a reasonable basis to hold them? I don't  know. I don't think we know every single detail. There could be more to this story than what we see.

As for the woman being arrested outside the bank, was the woman still on bank property? Was she told to disperse and didn't? Again, I don't know.






tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 10:51:30 AM)

~FR

Citibanks original statement....

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Citibank Statement Regarding Protester Arrests
October 15, 2011 6:12 PM By Citibank Public Affairs
Citibank Public Affairs issued the following statement regarding today's incident: "A large amount of protesters entered our branch at 555 La Guardia Place around 2:00 PM today. They were very disruptive and refused to leave after being repeatedly asked, causing our staff to call 911. The Police asked the branch staff to close the branch until the protesters could be removed. Only one person asked to close an account and was accommodated."

To be clear: no one was arrested for closing an account; we didn't lock people in our branch - the police decided to close the branch; and we didn't ask for anyone to be arrested - that is a police decision.


Their updated one....

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Citibank Public Affairs issued the following statement regarding today's incident: "A large number of protesters entered our branch at 555 La Guardia Place around 2:00 PM today. They were very disruptive and refused to leave after being repeatedly asked, causing our staff to call 911. The Police asked the branch staff to close the branch until the protesters could be removed. Only one person asked to close an account and was accommodated."


So the doors were locked.... unlike the original statement made by the bank.

During this second speech we were asked to leave by management, but chose to keep on talking. We were not shouting or moving about at all–we were in a loosely formed circle in the center of the bank lobby. Another one or two people spoke briefly. As they spoke the doorway was slowly being filled with buff men in polo shirts. Our talk was slowing down and coming to a close. We had been inside probably between 10 and 20 minutes total when suddenly we heard "doors are being locked now!" from one of the men who'd been standing in the doorway.

We walked over to the front doors and were met by many cops. At least 6 were inside with us. "We would like to leave " we said. "It's too late" the cops said back. A woman in her 70s (who I later befriended while waiting at central booking) asked to leave again and moved forward. She was pushed back forcefully by one of the cops in the doorway. She did not react. Everyone remained calm. "You are all under arrest," said a whiteshirt. These cops were mean: laughing under their breath, asking us about what we were "doing," telling us it was too late to leave, telling us to remain calm, etc.


http://gawker.com/5850398/a-protesters-account-of-this-weekends-citibank-arrests




StrangerThan -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 10:59:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Citibanks original statement....

quote:

Citibank Statement Regarding Protester Arrests
October 15, 2011 6:12 PM By Citibank Public Affairs
Citibank Public Affairs issued the following statement regarding today's incident: "A large amount of protesters entered our branch at 555 La Guardia Place around 2:00 PM today. They were very disruptive and refused to leave after being repeatedly asked, causing our staff to call 911. The Police asked the branch staff to close the branch until the protesters could be removed. Only one person asked to close an account and was accommodated."

To be clear: no one was arrested for closing an account; we didn't lock people in our branch - the police decided to close the branch; and we didn't ask for anyone to be arrested - that is a police decision.


Their updated one....

quote:

Citibank Public Affairs issued the following statement regarding today's incident: "A large number of protesters entered our branch at 555 La Guardia Place around 2:00 PM today. They were very disruptive and refused to leave after being repeatedly asked, causing our staff to call 911. The Police asked the branch staff to close the branch until the protesters could be removed. Only one person asked to close an account and was accommodated."


So the doors were locked.... unlike the original statement made by the bank.

During this second speech we were asked to leave by management, but chose to keep on talking. We were not shouting or moving about at all–we were in a loosely formed circle in the center of the bank lobby. Another one or two people spoke briefly. As they spoke the doorway was slowly being filled with buff men in polo shirts. Our talk was slowing down and coming to a close. We had been inside probably between 10 and 20 minutes total when suddenly we heard "doors are being locked now!" from one of the men who'd been standing in the doorway.

We walked over to the front doors and were met by many cops. At least 6 were inside with us. "We would like to leave " we said. "It's too late" the cops said back. A woman in her 70s (who I later befriended while waiting at central booking) asked to leave again and moved forward. She was pushed back forcefully by one of the cops in the doorway. She did not react. Everyone remained calm. "You are all under arrest," said a whiteshirt. These cops were mean: laughing under their breath, asking us about what we were "doing," telling us it was too late to leave, telling us to remain calm, etc.


http://gawker.com/5850398/a-protesters-account-of-this-weekends-citibank-arrests


Most of that seems to support the idea that these folks picked the wrong way of making a point, that being protesting inside a place of business and refusing to leave when asked to.

That pretty much makes it a non-story to me, as the same action could and likely would be applied against anyone causing a disruption at a business. It definitely doesn't make it worthy of headlines that make it seem like they were unduly assaulted and arrested for doing something as simple as closing an account.








xxblushesxx -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:09:39 AM)

Right. Boo effing hoo. If a mob came into their place of business spouting off political bullshit and refused to leave, they'd do the same thing. Any rational person(s) in charge of a business would. Or should the hourly wage workers who were being harrassed at their place of work, have sang Kumbayah with them and offered them tea and sympathy?




farglebargle -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:13:47 AM)

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If the people "occupying" all these places put half that energy into creating rather than bitching, they would be doing well for themselves.


Who told you the lie that #OWS people don't have jobs and aren't creative?




tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:20:38 AM)

The same person who told her that getting a job is easy in this economy.




tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:27:16 AM)

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Most of that seems to support the idea that these folks picked the wrong way of making a point, that being protesting inside a place of business and refusing to leave when asked to.

That pretty much makes it a non-story to me, as the same action could and likely would be applied against anyone causing a disruption at a business. It definitely doesn't make it worthy of headlines that make it seem like they were unduly assaulted and arrested for doing something as simple as closing an account.


No doubt all that will play out in court.

I dont recall anyone saying they were assaulted.





xxblushesxx -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:38:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The same person who told her that getting a job is easy in this economy.


I didn't say easy, did I? But it's certainly doable for anyone who puts their mind to it. I could start up a pet-sitting business just right here in the little corner of the world I live in (a five mile radius) and be kept busy day and night should I so choose. Find a need and fill it, and don't be afraid of hard work.




mnottertail -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:42:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Most of that seems to support the idea that these folks picked the wrong way of making a point, that being protesting inside a place of business and refusing to leave when asked to.

That pretty much makes it a non-story to me, as the same action could and likely would be applied against anyone causing a disruption at a business. It definitely doesn't make it worthy of headlines that make it seem like they were unduly assaulted and arrested for doing something as simple as closing an account.


No doubt all that will play out in court.

I dont recall anyone saying they were assaulted.





Two things stand out, if you go to BofA to close an account, do not bring any friends or family. It is semi-criminal.

The other, I wonder if the 'accomodated' closer was arrested or given a toaster or other parting gift, and let out?




tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:48:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The same person who told her that getting a job is easy in this economy.


I didn't say easy, did I? But it's certainly doable for anyone who puts their mind to it. I could start up a pet-sitting business just right here in the little corner of the world I live in (a five mile radius) and be kept busy day and night should I so choose. Find a need and fill it, and don't be afraid of hard work.


If people with pets arent working, where are they getting the money from?

16% of the country is out of work.

NY "real" unemployment is 15%.

McDonalds had over a million applications for 62,000 jobs. People are willing and eager to work....

get off your high horse.




littlewonder -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:48:51 AM)

sounds like an open and shut case to me then.

They were told to leave. They didn't. They were arrested for  not doing so.

Nothing to report  here then. How is this big news on these details?

Just more media hype over absolutely nothing except disruptful people.





xxblushesxx -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 11:56:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The same person who told her that getting a job is easy in this economy.


I didn't say easy, did I? But it's certainly doable for anyone who puts their mind to it. I could start up a pet-sitting business just right here in the little corner of the world I live in (a five mile radius) and be kept busy day and night should I so choose. Find a need and fill it, and don't be afraid of hard work.


If people with pets arent working, where are they getting the money from?

16% of the country is out of work.

NY "real" unemployment is 15%.

McDonalds had over a million applications for 62,000 jobs. People are willing and eager to work....

get off your high horse.


I'm not on any high horse. I chose to work from home so that I could be here to take care of children, pets and HM's needs. That meant I had to figure out a way to do so. I started off working for others, moved on to working for myself, and now have some lovely people who work with and for me. It's NOT easy, but if you find a need, you will find a job and maybe even a career.

Even in this economy, you can find a way to support yourself. And if New York, one of the most expensive places to live is not working, you may have to consider moving to a more reasonable area. People do what they have to do. Or they march and complain about the ones who are.




tazzygirl -> RE: Illegal to close a bank account? (10/17/2011 12:02:11 PM)

Many of those marching have jobs. Geraldo did a segment last night asking many what they did for a living....I dont recall one saying they were out of work.

I truly doubt you could call Russel Simmons as an out of work bum who was in the march grumbling about the other people who were making more money than him.

People arent there complaining because other people have work and they dont. What they are complaining about are the bailouts many companies received and the bonuses paid out, while the working class got fired.




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