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The various mercury guidelines are based on epidemiological and laboratory studies of methyl mercury, whereas thimerosal is a derivative of ethyl mercury. Because they are different chemical entities - ethyl- versus methylmercury - different toxicological profiles are expected. There is, therefore, an uncertainty that arises in applying the methylmercury-based guidelines to thimerosal. Lacking definitive data on the comparative toxicities of ethyl- versus methylmercury, FDA considered ethyl- and methyl-mercury as equivalent in its risk evaluation.

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One final piece of data regarding thimerosal is worth noting. At the initial National Vaccine Advisory Committee-sponsored meeting on thimerosal in 1999, concerns were expressed that infants may lack the ability to eliminate mercury. More recent NIAID-supported studies at the University of Rochester and National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, MD examined levels of mercury in blood and other samples from infants who had received routine immunizations with thimerosal-containing vaccines. [Pichichero ME, et al. Lancet 360:1737-1741 (2002)] Blood levels of mercury did not exceed safety guidelines for methyl mercury for all infants in these studies. Further, mercury was cleared from the blood in infants exposed to thimerosal faster than would be predicted for methyl mercury; infants excreted significant amounts of mercury in stool after thimerosal exposure, thus removing mercury from their bodies. These results suggest that there are differences in the way that thimerosal and methyl mercury are distributed, metabolized, and excreted. Thimerosal appears to be removed from the blood and body more rapidly than methyl mercury. NIAID is sponsoring a follow-up study with larger numbers of infants in Buenos Aires where thimerosal-containing vaccines are still administered to children.       http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#tox

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However, nearly all fish and shellfish contain traces of mercury. For most people, the risk from mercury by eating fish and shellfish is not a health concern. Yet, some fish and shellfish contain higher levels of mercury that may harm an unborn baby or young child's developing nervous system. The risks from mercury in fish and shellfish depend on the amount of fish and shellfish eaten and the levels of mercury in the fish and shellfish. Therefore, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) are advising women who may become pregnant, pregnant women, nursing mothers, and young children to avoid some types of fish and eat fish and shellfish that are lower in mercury. By following these 3 recommendations for selecting and eating fish or shellfish, women and young children will receive the benefits of eating fish and shellfish and be confident that they have reduced their exposure to the harmful effects of mercury.

1. Do not eat Shark, Swordfish, King Mackerel, or Tilefish because they contain high levels of mercury.
2. Eat up to 12 ounces (2 average meals) a week of a variety of fish and shellfish that are lower in mercury.
   • Five of the most commonly eaten fish that are low in mercury are shrimp, canned light tuna, salmon, pollock, and catfish.
   • Another commonly eaten fish, albacore ("white") tuna has more mercury than canned light tuna. So, when choosing your two meals of fish and shellfish, you may eat up to 6 ounces (one average meal) of albacore tuna per week.
   
   
3. Check local advisories about the safety of fish caught by family and friends in your local lakes, rivers, and coastal areas. If no advice is available, eat up to 6 ounces (one average meal) per week of fish you catch from local waters, but don't consume any other fish during that week.

Follow these same recommendations when feeding fish and shellfish to your young child, but serve smaller portions.     http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/Product-SpecificInformation/Seafood/FoodbornePathogensContaminants/Methylmercury/ucm115662.htm

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Ill just comment on this:

"Do not eat Shark, Swordfish, King Mackerel, or Tilefish because they contain high levels of mercury"

Blanket statements like that don't serve anyone well. It depends on where the fish comes from. Open-sea fish off the coast of Hawaii don't show elevated levels of mercury for example. The statement also ignores the importance of the ratio of selenium to mercury, which again is generally beneficial in open-sea fish.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Now let the foil hat members of this forum present facts (other than those from conspiracy theory websites) that can dispute the information."

You just presented it yourself.

Avoid certain foods because they might be high in mercury ? That is right there in your post. And in there somewhere is a case made that it is OK to inject it ? So it's OK to inject it but not to eat it ? It makes for brain problems in the fetus if eaten by the pregnant Mother yet is safe to inject into the bloodstream.

I suppose in this day and age it makes perfect sense. Just wait until the drug manufacturers find something they can sell that has lead in it. Then all that money spent on lead based paint abatement will be for naught.

You really should post on that because I bet you have some interesting opinions about the fact that we have to test houses and apartments and do lead abatement if necessary because some people are such good Parents that they don't notice their kids eating the paint off the fucking walls.

I say people like that should just be injected with lead based paint and we'll see if it is dangerous or not. Mercury too, yummy ! Does a body good.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Now let the foil hat members of this forum present facts (other than those from conspiracy theory websites) that can dispute the information."

You just presented it yourself.

Avoid certain foods because they might be high in mercury ? That is right there in your post. And in there somewhere is a case made that it is OK to inject it ? So it's OK to inject it but not to eat it ? It makes for brain problems in the fetus if eaten by the pregnant Mother yet is safe to inject into the bloodstream.

I suppose in this day and age it makes perfect sense. Just wait until the drug manufacturers find something they can sell that has lead in it. Then all that money spent on lead based paint abatement will be for naught.

You really should post on that because I bet you have some interesting opinions about the fact that we have to test houses and apartments and do lead abatement if necessary because some people are such good Parents that they don't notice their kids eating the paint off the fucking walls.

I say people like that should just be injected with lead based paint and we'll see if it is dangerous or not. Mercury too, yummy ! Does a body good.

T^T

Actually Termy, an expectant mother should not be getting any vaccinations either. The difference there is the effect on the developing fetus.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Actually, I don't think the mercury is the only issue. Some of us have heard about the theories where DOCTORS are coming out and saying it is too much and their point is that the viruses mutate. My point is different, I think viruses always mutated and our immune system did along with them.

Think of it this way, if you put leg braces on a person who can walk for long enough, eventually they won't be able to walk. You cannot get strong without working out. You cannot focus your eyes without light. You cannot become immune to anything without exposure, and now Man seems to think he can expose you to everything.

This is where I differ, precisely where I disagree. If pumping in some mercury actually did, for sure, save a life in rare cases as a last resort, sure. But to line people up like cattle is wrong.

And of all those in the military bitching about it because they had a reaction, I know they are in the minority. But the fucking problem there is that they had no choice and therefore they are fucked over for having the wrong body chemistry.

How about that for a new form of discrimination ?

T^T

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Actually, I don't think the mercury is the only issue. Some of us have heard about the theories where DOCTORS are coming out and saying it is too much and their point is that the viruses mutate. My point is different, I think viruses always mutated and our immune system did along with them.

Think of it this way, if you put leg braces on a person who can walk for long enough, eventually they won't be able to walk. You cannot get strong without working out. You cannot focus your eyes without light. You cannot become immune to anything without exposure, and now Man seems to think he can expose you to everything.

This is where I differ, precisely where I disagree. If pumping in some mercury actually did, for sure, save a life in rare cases as a last resort, sure. But to line people up like cattle is wrong.

And of all those in the military bitching about it because they had a reaction, I know they are in the minority. But the fucking problem there is that they had no choice and therefore they are fucked over for having the wrong body chemistry.

How about that for a new form of discrimination ?

T^T