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Folks what do you think about the fact that medical car... - 9/20/2011 2:42:44 PM   
lobodomslavery


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Status: offline 		Should all medical card holders have available to them the same ranges of treatment as non medical card holders. Apparently non medical card holders do NOT have the same level of range treatment available to them. Should health care not be free for all? Why should those who cant afford proper treatment be discriminated against. Is it fair that money is the deciding factor in the quality of treatment one can get. What do you think about this folks? Or is it only right that workers have better medical care available to them
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:45:49 PM   
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:48:48 PM   
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:50:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well the short answer is no im not worried because i know i am not getting the mental health treatment i need and neither is anyone else in Ireland because we are dealing with an antiquated dysfunctional system which is not fit for purpose and is not serving the needs of those with mental illness. However leaving that aside and looking at the wider view, it is a FACT that people with medical cards, im not one of them by the way, DO NOT have available to them the same level and range of treatment as non medical card holders, ie those who are most in need of health care are being denied it because they dont have the MONEY to pay for it and the question i m throwing out is in a civilised caring society Should money be no object when it comes to health, in other words why should money and lack of same as people on medical cards have very little money be an obstacle to people receiving necessary medical treatment
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:52:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		i dont know what is like in the US but i think ireland should have a system similar to the UK and quite honestly i dont know why they dont because we have copied everything from Britain, our laws derive from Britain, we speak the same language and we are effectively west britons
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:53:15 PM   
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Should all medical card holders have available to them the same ranges of treatment as non medical card holders.
I give up, should they?

Apparently non medical card holders do NOT have the same level of range treatment available to them. Should health care not be free for all? Of course it should. And the health care providers should sleep naked in cages and submit to whippings every night.


Why should those who cant afford proper treatment be discriminated against.

damn right. And after they do I want a fucking Lamborhini instead of my Mercedes.

Is it fair that money is the deciding factor in the quality of treatment one can get. Of course not, and I want lifetime free fucking maintenance on that Lamborghini too.




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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:55:07 PM   
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Luxury vs Necessity

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 2:58:42 PM   
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Luxury vs Necessity


ORLY. And where is the line between "necessary" health care and "luxury" health care? "Necessary food" and "luxury food"? "Necessary housing" and "luxury housing"?

They are all commodities. You get what you can pay for. There is nothing unique about health care.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:11:25 PM   
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damn right. And after they do I want a fucking Lamborhini instead of my Mercedes.


You mean THIS Mercedes?






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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:18:24 PM   
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Luxury vs Necessity


Please ... allow me to illustrate Willbe's vision for the future ... due to image posting rules here, it's a two parter.....


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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:20:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a topic willbe and I will always disagree on. He deals with the numbers... I deal with the bodies... One day, he will be a body... I will never be a number.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:22:22 PM   
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:24:01 PM   
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This is a topic willbe and I will always disagree on. He deals with the numbers... I deal with the bodies... One day, he will be a body... I will never be a number.


No shit ... he's just still upset that NAFTA didn't meen he could have a Hacienda this side of the border..



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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 3:29:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nobody should be denied access to necessary medical care. Nobody should lose their home and life savings because of medical bills. All necessary medical care should be covered under a non-profit single-payer system.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 6:15:49 PM   
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damn right. And after they do I want a fucking Lamborhini instead of my Mercedes.


You mean THIS Mercedes?







No thats the Canadian bus that Obama used for the Magical Misery Tour.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 6:27:51 PM   
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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 7:53:56 PM   
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I wont even tell you what else I had with the live sea urchin and live clam today. It would give you nightmares!

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 8:08:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Um, kevin, please do me a favor and describe just what a medical card is.  95% of the posters here are from the US and as one of them, I don't know what the card actually is.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 8:10:32 PM   
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Um, kevin, please do me a favor and describe just what a medical card is.  95% of the posters here are from the US and as one of them, I don't know what the card actually is.


Evidence of insurance, basically, if I understood the intent.

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RE: Folks what do you think about the fact that medical... - 9/20/2011 9:01:56 PM   
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Um, kevin, please do me a favor and describe just what a medical card is.  95% of the posters here are from the US and as one of them, I don't know what the card actually is.

Evidence of insurance, basically, if I understood the intent.


Yes just like 'a boot' in America is something somebody wears, while in England its the 'trunk' of the car. While it may sound obvious, it could be something quite different.

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