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joether -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 1:06:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Is Kirata as conservative as all that? It isn't like he's in the same mindset as the rabid Rusheviks who speak for the conservative massive in here, after all. He seems to give considered answers, rather than cut and pasting some line of bullshit a talking head spouted on Fox, or a wingnut posted on a blog from an armed militia camp, for a start.


Than his answer should be much better than the 'line item bull droppings' we've come to expect from the other conservative posters on here, shouldn't we? Kirata generally has two posting styles:

A) Air-Tight arguement

B) Flimsy arguements that open him up to counter-arguements

So I'm hoping for 'A', but expecting 'B'.



Moonhead -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 1:12:40 PM)

He at least has two styles, joe: I'll take that over The Legion Of Superzeroes* posting style any day.

*(Foreskin Boy, Medication Lad, et al)



Lucylastic -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 1:50:50 PM)

With all due respect and zero ass licking, Kirata is one of the few who will pull people up on their dumbarse shit no matter what side gives it out.
I dont always agreee with him about it, but I do appreciate what he brings to the board... mostly.[;)]




Moonhead -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 1:55:56 PM)

Which is why I feel joe's being a little unfair here. Kirata strikes me as being far more nonaligned and independent than certain posters I could mention, put it that way...



Owner59 -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 2:06:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

With all due respect and zero ass licking, Kirata is one of the few who will pull people up on their dumbarse shit no matter what side gives it out.
I dont always agreee with him about it, but I do appreciate what he brings to the board... mostly.[;)]



I`ll throw in with these thoughts too.

If it wasn`t for Kirata,Firm and a very few others who actually make arguments and respect the debate,I wouldn`t spend my free time here.

The trolls,fakes and flakes seem to be growing.

That new guy Raiikun is growing on me.He seems to be sincere.




Raiikun -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 2:50:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


That new guy Raiikun is growing on me.He seems to be sincere.




For what it's worth, I appreciate that, and try to be sincere. =) And this is as good a time as any to point out, since some have at one point or another lumped me in with the whole Neo-con thing...

It really is hard for me to determine where I'm at politically. If I had to describe it in a nutshell it would probably be like I'd consider myself what I think the Republican party *should* be, but not where they are now. There's a Reagan speech from decades ago that hits on a lot of the same points I believe in (but wish *that* version of Reagan had been president, instead of the one we actually got).

But anyways, it leads to fun positions, like arguing about the Clinton's surplus in the other thread, which makes it get lost that I actually *applaud* his fiscal responsibility and wish we coulda voted him in for another term to continue what he started.



Kirata -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 3:42:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

Kirata generally has two posting styles:

A) Air-Tight arguement

B) Flimsy arguements that open him up to counter-arguements

It only seems that way to you... [:D]

K.



tazzygirl -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 3:49:08 PM)

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That new guy Raiikun is growing on me.He seems to be sincere.


He isnt new.. been here before.. and just as much of an ass now as he was then.



ArizonaBossMan -> meltdown leftists! (9/15/2011 3:49:42 PM)

you leftists are in total meltdown mode and I love it! January 20, 2013 folks! CHOO CHOOO! Here comes the train! Your idiot president gives a speech and his numbers go down FURTHER! Hilarious. "If you love me you will help pass the jobs bill" - now how pathetic is that! Well, at least Jimmy Carter is not any longer our worst president.



tazzygirl -> RE: meltdown leftists! (9/15/2011 3:52:23 PM)

So who is gonna win, Az?



Lucylastic -> RE: meltdown leftists! (9/15/2011 3:56:52 PM)

ABM
total meltdown??
where?
who??
how??
what does meltdown mean to you??
you are the one who hasnt stopped melting down over the Pres for three years, all you do is post shit and run.
chicken shit
try using a REAL dictionary for once and absorbing what you read.
you are like a pulsating rhoid filled with bile



SternSkipper -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 4:30:16 PM)

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"What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance? Who pays for his coverage? Are you saying society should just let him die?" Wolf Blitzer asked.

"Yeah!" several members of the crowd yelled out.


I actually listened to the rebroadcast to make sure I heard that right... what that fucking dark or what. Reminded me of two weeks ago when Romney got all pumped and jubilant when low numbers came out in the jobs report. I don't give a fuck what your ideology is THAT IS NOT A TIME TO BE JOYFUL. And it was crystal clear he was glad the numbers were bad. This election's gonna get very creepy. mark my words.




SternSkipper -> RE: GOP....Death-Panel-Party.... (9/15/2011 4:39:40 PM)

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Let me ask you this hypothetical question. A healthy 30-year old man, has a good job, makes a good living, but decides, 'you know what? I'm not going to spend two hundred or three hundred dollars a month for health insurance... I don't need it, I'm healthy'...

But okay, nevermind the details. He gets sick, and we'll assume he's poor. Now what? Well we aren't going to let him die. If he dies, it's going to be because the doctors let him die. It's going to be because the doctors decided, 'you know, this guy can't pay me, fuck him.' And in my opinion, any doctor who would say that deserves whatever he gets as a consequence.

But you, you don't feel that way. No, you accept that as perfectly reasonable. Who in their right mind would treat someone for free! As Blitzer, too, pointedly asks, "Who's going to pay?" That's the only issue you and Blitzer are worried about:

...but you know, something terrible happens, all of a sudden he needs it. Who's going to pay?


I think it was a question with an escape hatch built in. Reality for a while here? You think that there are a lot of 30 year old guys (with or without ObamaCare existing ... there's a sizable period of time to sample prior to it) that are/ were/will show up in the emergency room or doctors office with no health insurance?
   It might have been more realistic if they described a guy with two or three kids who makes $8 an hour and can't afford the $600.00 to $1,200.00 health care costs (right now, no shit) becomes faced with the same dilema.
   It doesn't make the Hearty "YEAH!" you could hear any less dark.



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