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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

Hmmm..

A) Obama could give it at the White House, he doesn't have to do it in front of a joint session of congress. This is him being a dick and politically grand standing his jobs speech. Therefore, Boehner slapped him back.

You want to talk about being a dick?

I grew up in Ohio and still have a home there.

Boehner was an obstructionist asshole when he was in the state legislature and nothing has changed since he was elected to Congress, it's only become worse.

His only concern is scoring political points.

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I think its not about what theyve doing the past 10 years, but getting back to the 20 years before those. I don't disagree with "too much God", but I do disagree that it precludes rational policy debate. The tea party has done plenty. It has focused the discussion on where it needs to be, and without them we would have had more spending and more taxes, disasterous for the economy.

And I totally disagree with Romney and Perry at least not being leaders. They have been very succesful in two important states, Romney despite being a Republican in a state that leans far left. Obama gave all kinds of pretty speeches about reaching accross the aisle, and from the start showed the only thing that he would reach accross the aisle with is a stick with shit on the end.

We dont need a visionary, we need a competent executive. Romney at least has proven to be that, in both business and government. Will someone else come along? Doubtful at this point. Romney/Rubio 2012.

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Romney?? That corporate raider who got rich by putting people out of work?? That Romney? He would be the worst thing that could happen to this country.


EDT: Well after Bachmann and the god-followers like her anyway. With any of them we would be living in a theocracy.

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Romney?? That corporate raider who got rich by putting people out of work?? That Romney? He would be the worst thing that could happen to this country.


EDT: Well after Bachmann and the god-followers like her anyway. With any of them we would be living in a theocracy.

Romneys companies' acquisitions and consulting partnerships created far more jobs than were eliminated. But why let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

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The debate needs to be "greater than the party"? The debate is about saving the COUNTRY from the cancer in DC. It doesnt get any bigger than that. And your assessment that its "Kool-Aid" drinkers is incorrect imo. They arent watching because their minds are made up already. The debates attract the independents and those on the fence.

The debate should be about saving the country from the cancer in DC. However, I don't think it will be. One, I don't think Republicans have anything figured it out yet. They are still committed to the same dumb ass shit they have been doing the past ten years. They haven't had focus since the contract with america ran out. Their recent 22 point whatever, not focused, and a waste. Two there are still too many politiwhores in that debate. Three, there will be too much God in that debate, not enough rational policy. Four, the tea party hasn't done shit yet. Obstructionism is worthless. On paper they have a lot of good ideas, but in practice too many hijacked by the God brigade, they don't have a pragmatic means of implementing policy, and they lack a voice to get things done.

Finally, not one of them is a clear cut leader. It doesn't matter if any of them would make a great panel member on the economy and have good ideas. If not a one of them is a solid leader and a visonary, they might as well show monkies throwing shit. 4 years of Obama has showed us the value of limp dicked leadership. We need a stateman to emerge, and the republican primary candidates as of today blow about as much as FB thread.

I think its not about what theyve doing the past 10 years, but getting back to the 20 years before those. I don't disagree with "too much God", but I do disagree that it precludes rational policy debate. The tea party has done plenty. It has focused the discussion on where it needs to be, and without them we would have had more spending and more taxes, disasterous for the economy.

And I totally disagree with Romney and Perry at least not being leaders. They have been very succesful in two important states, Romney despite being a Republican in a state that leans far left. Obama gave all kinds of pretty speeches about reaching accross the aisle, and from the start showed the only thing that he would reach accross the aisle with is a stick with shit on the end.

We dont need a visionary, we need a competent executive. Romney at least has proven to be that, in both business and government. Will someone else come along? Doubtful at this point. Romney/Rubio 2012.