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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 4:20:37 AM   
MalcolmNathaniel


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Status: offline 		Well, I actually did my Junior year paper on electrocution. I'm an electrical engineer. Every time I see someone get shocked in a movie I cringe because THAT'S NOT HOW ELECTRICITY WORKS!

CynthiaWVirginia: Violet wands are AWESOME! I'd still keep it away from the brain and spinal column. Technical information: They work at about 45 kV (45000 volts) and at about 500 kHz, extremely low Amperage (it's the amps that kill you.) At that frequency though, your skin is an actual barrier to electricity.

About 12 years ago I was with a slave in a store that was, at the time, the premier BDSM store on the East Coast called DFP. The clerk almost begged me to try a new device called "The Zapper" on my pet. That's also fun. It looks like a tennis paddle made with wire mesh and has a 9V battery in the handle. If they still make it you could pick up one of those for a fraction of the price of a violet wand.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 4:29:29 AM   
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They're electric fly swats. I saw them in non-kinky shops more than 12 years ago, for sure. You can still get them in pound shops here.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 10:05:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know they still sell them on this side of the pond.  There were a few folks that had them at that camp out I attended a few weeks back.  Very effective against mosquitoes.  They only take two AA batteries and just a bit larger than a ping pong paddle.  It's enough juice to see if you like watching somebody jump around from being shocked, but kind of bulky.  Of course, I'm kind of spoiled with the advantages of the wand.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 10:07:24 AM   
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I still havent sold that tens I got, sits in the safe, doing nothing.

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EMS on each ankle.. - 8/24/2011 3:41:32 PM   
eroticloki


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Status: offline 		Try using TENS or EMS on each ankle so it spans across the legs.
It is then supposed to stimulate the nerves in the groin used for erotic feelings (works best for women).

Has anyone tried EMS with butt plug in guy and other GEL pad above girls clit.
If you fuck while connected like this and run a quick burst program that speeds up should be fun.

I have used EMS on base of cock and member and the erection you get is so hard..
Close to torture if setting is too high though.

The rule never above waist should be absolute for anyone interested in E sex.
If you doubt it just stick them across your cock /clit turn the dial full up and see how long you can hold it.
Then imagine your heart cramping.
A massive heart attack is a painfull way to die and seeing someone have such an attack will haunt you for life.
If you talk to people that have survived one. It's their biggest fear to die of a second.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 3:55:03 PM   
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I still havent sold that tens I got, sits in the safe, doing nothing.

LOL.  You know, I darn near asked when I saw your first contribution to this thread. 


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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 7:38:10 PM   
Aswad


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Above the waist is perfectly legitimate with a quality unit, but requires some knowledge of the anatomy, the working principles of the unit used and the basics of electrical conduction in the human body. This is something one could get off Wikipedia, if so inclined, with the usual caveats about checking the sources. One should never (IMO) apply a current above T1, and definitely not cross the midline above T1. The former is due to the possibility of affecting the blood flow in the case of a deep conduction problem, and the latter is due to the possibility of stimulating or damaging nerves that should not be stimulated or damaged. Staying below the knee of the sternum, not crossing the midline, not crossing the midplane, and avoiding the heart, are measures that will offer most of the safety of a more well read approach without the effort (let's face it, some people will do it without reading up on it; this is harm reduction, not an endorsement).

Sweating and flushing provides an opportunity for deeper conduction, which is undesireable. However, if the application of the electrodes is otherwise sensible, a quality unit won't deliver sufficient current to cause more damage than any other accident in play, and should ideally shut down right away. The simplest test for whether it will shut down is to press the pads together and turning the unit on a low setting. If it doesn't signal an error and stop, it will probably not detect excessive deep conduction (although any medically certified unit should prevent heart stopping currents). There is some chance of ill effects from deep conduction, even at low currents, but I would generally be comfortable with keeping an eye on breathing, making sure there's healthy screaming going on, and watching out for unexpected spasms (i.e. jerking motions of a different character than voluntary or pain-related jerking), taking some pauses to check on things now and then. The risk is after all associated with the failure of two to three different sets of safety mechanisms in the first place.

Units or settings that can deliver enough juice to cause significant jerking in normal use, owing to direct muscle stimulation, are a different matter. I've no experience with those. Regular electro isn't really my thing to begin with, but variety is the spice of life and a source of compatibilities, after all. Incidentally, does anyone have experience with insulated needle electrodes? Not that I'm planning on poking any cruri, but... inquiring minds...

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 7:45:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with mummyman, I seel sex toys including electric play toys and the research says that a person can affected and even die up to 4 hours after play....you really should be doing TONS of research before you do anything!!!

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/24/2011 11:13:29 PM   
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quote:

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Above the waist is perfectly legitimate with a quality unit, but requires some knowledge of the anatomy, the working principles of the unit used and the basics of electrical conduction in the human body. This is something one could get off Wikipedia, if so inclined, with the usual caveats about checking the sources. One should never (IMO) apply a current above T1, and definitely not cross the midline above T1. The former is due to the possibility of affecting the blood flow in the case of a deep conduction problem, and the latter is due to the possibility of stimulating or damaging nerves that should not be stimulated or damaged. Staying below the knee of the sternum, not crossing the midline, not crossing the midplane, and avoiding the heart, are measures that will offer most of the safety of a more well read approach without the effort (let's face it, some people will do it without reading up on it; this is harm reduction, not an endorsement).



Finally someone who's talking some sense.

Most Tens units do not produce enough amperage to stop the heart, and I've personally played with electricity on my nipples, but thats about as far as I'd go.

There are just too many large nerve bundles which are more sensitive to electricity as we go higher up, and among these, I'd avoid the armpits. There shouldn't be a need to explain why the neck shouldn't even be considered.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/25/2011 3:35:42 AM   
Endivius


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Status: offline 		I found this thread throughly enjoyable. Props to everyone who contributed the information was very valuable. We have just started experimenting with E and it's been very enjoyable so far. Wand is really working for us. Next up is a TENS once we get more comfortable with the wand.

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RE: TENS Unit Trouble! - 8/25/2011 7:26:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
I still havent sold that tens I got, sits in the safe, doing nothing.

LOL.  You know, I darn near asked when I saw your first contribution to this thread. 



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