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Lucylastic -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 2:50:49 PM)
My grandad used to say, coppers and criminals are bastards, the only difference is that most cops have birth certificates and are regularly employed. He was a cop for 25 years in london. My Bro in law is in the met now for 15 years and agrees with his assessment even now. Bad cops..abusers drunks, morons, should not be held to the breast of law, they should suffer the same as everyone else

Termyn8or -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 8:54:05 PM)
FR As mich as they have cut me. I have done rally well so far, but you know what ? I have not caused injuries. But I guess I must be fucked over because I MIGHT. GO FUCK THEMSELVES. T^T

rulemylife -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 9:25:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I guess I do have an opinion on this despite my previous statement. Would you not support those who are in the same job, especially in a dangerous line of work? if you were a cop, you would want to work beside a cop that drank and was waving a gun around? do you think that a cop that drinks does so only off hours? If i was in construction i would not want to work with a construction worker that was drunk or if a Doctor be operated on by a Doctor that was drunk. We are talking about off-duty. And while we are on the subject maybe we should be discussing the draconian laws that Clinton let MADD push through. The reality is a large number of people socialize by going out to bars and restaurants to have a few drinks. I'm not saying people should be driving shit-faced drunk but there have been studies that have equated talking on a cell phone with the same distractions as the .08 limit. But I have yet to see Mothers Against Cell Phones.

Icarys -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 9:25:32 PM)
How about if they rape someone? Fuck no they shouldn't get away with it anymore than the rest of us should..who would advocate a group like that having a pass. I say we hook them and those who agree with allowing them to get away with it to and endless supply of Jack fed straight to their veins until they overdose and die. If killing is too harsh then a monthly held community beat down of the perpetrators might be better to your liking. (Of course, I've gotten softer in my old age)

tj444 -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 9:29:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife We are talking about off-duty. yeah, after a night on the town and drinking all night I am sure they are always totally 100% sober in the morning..

Icarys -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 9:32:43 PM)
quote: The reality is a large number of people socialize by going out to bars and restaurants to have a few drinks. True but the responsible thing to do is make sure you have a safe ride...anything less than that and you're breaking the law and putting lives..other lives as well as yours in danger. Nobody has the right to take that lightly to the detriment of another human being. quote: But I have yet to see Mothers Against Cell Phones. But there are laws being passed and have been passed about cell phones while driving. To equate though cell phone distraction to whole body inebriation. Well, I suppose it works, right? You probably haven't seen MADD groups championing cell phone issues because it just isn't AS serious as drinking and driving. Not from my view anyway.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 10:07:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I guess I do have an opinion on this despite my previous statement. Would you not support those who are in the same job, especially in a dangerous line of work? if you were a cop, you would want to work beside a cop that drank and was waving a gun around? do you think that a cop that drinks does so only off hours? If i was in construction i would not want to work with a construction worker that was drunk or if a Doctor be operated on by a Doctor that was drunk. We are talking about off-duty. And while we are on the subject maybe we should be discussing the draconian laws that Clinton let MADD push through. The reality is a large number of people socialize by going out to bars and restaurants to have a few drinks. I'm not saying people should be driving shit-faced drunk but there have been studies that have equated talking on a cell phone with the same distractions as the .08 limit. But I have yet to see Mothers Against Cell Phones. That's because MADD is just a new incarnation of Carrie nation and her sick shit. Same people who got all the anti- MJ/opioid/cocaine laws passed. Bachmann theocrat hypocrite scum. Reefer madness. Reefer makes black people rape white women. Black people drink Richard's Wild Irish Rose. John Boehner drinks (with his lobbyists, overheard in a restaurant pissing and moaning about "Leebrils") Romanee la Tache. A black man who drinks a bit much is a drunk n**r. Boehner is just a bit emotional. Alcohol good. Opium bad, because Chnks smoke it. Evil yellow foreigners. Tobacco good. Tobacco makes big profits for Virginia farmers. Virginia farmers elect retards who deny that tobacco causes cancer. Eric Cantor sucks tobacco cock. Now the same shitheads who denied tobacco-cancer deny GCC, funded by the same shitheads. Cocaine was OK. I knew someone sold over 2 ounces a week in the Pentagon. But crack bad. Cocaine funded the Contras. Crack destroyed the inner cities. Same fucking source. Reagan- North criminals. Never trust a Pig. A Pig will plant drugs and throw-down guns and then smile at everyone during his backyard suburban barbecue. No fucking conscience at all. They are sociopathic shits who would have been criminals if they hadn't gotten into the USA/USMC/USN. Very few Air Force people become pigs. I've had pigs in my family. New York State Troopers, among others. I personally have more honor than they did.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 10:23:47 PM)
I have zero sympathy for people who drink and drive. A drunk driver took my childhood memories from me and left me with a body that hasn't known a day without pain since. Fuck drunk drivers, and especially cops who drive drunk. If you are going to be the fucking law - UPHOLD the fucking law. Throw their asses in jail, take their badges. Regarding cell phone usage being on par with drunk driving. Whoever thinks that, well ... I won't say what I think of that, but if they want to take their cell phones and sodomize themselves - they might have an idea about my opinion on that whole theory.

Hillwilliam -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 10:34:47 PM)
Personally, Id like to see police have the same rules as someone with a CDL. Legal limit for someone with a CDL is half that for a regular person as they are held to a higher standard. Dont like it? Don't become a cop.

slaveluci -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/13/2011 11:18:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic My grandad used to say, coppers and criminals are bastards, the only difference is that most cops have birth certificates and are regularly employed. Wise man, your grandad[:)] luci

Termyn8or -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/14/2011 1:59:43 PM)
FR You know goddamn well when you bitch about drunk drivers you are bitching about "other people". Quit being a hypocrite, if you have EVER gone to a bar in a car. Get fucking real. The problem is people don't fucking know how to drive. If you know how to drive you can accomplish getting from point A to point B after having a sixpack, and while talking on the phone while changing the radio station. If you can't fucking drive it takes all your mental energy, even though you don't fucking know it, just to drive safely. You just don't know it. I think cars should instantly kill the driver who runs into anything, unless there is a brake failure. PERIOD. You wanna see insurance rates go down ? Yeah, we believe, cops are so above us masses huddled or otherwise that they would never operate a motor vehicle while inebriated. They have to think about that oceanfront property in Arizona, so as not to lose it. Fuck all that. The fact is cops have an unbelievable amount of discretion, if you know how to get them to use it, you can get away with quite a bit. Alot in fact. T^T

lockedaway -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/14/2011 2:49:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto Colorado Cops arrested for drunk driving in Wyoming quote: Two Colorado police officers traveling to represent their department at another lawman’s funeral are on desk duty after authorities said they took an alcohol-fueled ride through Wyoming with their emergency lights flashing and a beer cooler in the back seat. Aurora officers Bradley B. Bickett and Gerald Kirby, each with more than 30 years on the force, are accused of speeding past traffic with their emergency lights on and tossing trash from a window on their way to the South Dakota funeral of a fallen police officer. Their squad car was pulled over Wednesday after a volunteer firefighter spotted the car driving erratically on a state highway outside Torrington, Wyo., about 50 miles northeast of Cheyenne. Bickett faces charges of driving while impaired, careless driving, and speeding, and Kirby faces charges of littering... Goshen County Sheriff’s Captain Bryan Morehouse told Denver’s KUSA-TV he smelled alcohol and found beer in a cooler inside the car when he stopped them. Goshen County Sheriff Donald J. Murphy said yesterday that Bickett’s blood alcohol level tested at 0.08 percent, the level at which he said a driver is presumed to be under the influence. Another test determined his level was 0.077 percent, Murphy said... Murphy said yesterday that he’s received some complaints from officers in other departments about the arrests. But he insisted his deputies had no choice. Cops Won’t Arrest Colleagues for DUI quote: Denver’s police monitor has released an analysis concluding that Denver police officers have been routinely looking the other way for years, not arresting fellow officers when they catch each other driving drunk. “It appears reasonable to conclude that off- duty DPD officers may have, in the past, received preferential treatment by not being arrested for DUI violations when there is no related traffic collission,” wrote Richard Rosenthal, the independent monitor for Denver who provides oversight of the police, fire and sheriff’s departments in Denver. In a four page analysis that is part of his quarterly report, Rosenthal noted that in the six years he has been in his position, no DPD officer has been arrested for DUI by another DPD officer unless they were involved in a traffic collision. He said Denver officers have been arrested five times for DUI, but only after there had been a crash. 'You suck,' Denver police officer tells Silverthorne cop during DUI arrest quote: His blood alcohol level measured three times the legal limit when he crashed his Jeep, swore at officers and demanded special treatment... According to an arrest report from the Silverthorne Police Department, off-duty Denver Police Officer Jesse M. Sandoval drove his Jeep Cherokee off the road in the 200 block of Wildernest Road just after 8 p.m. on Feb. 17, 2010. When officers approached Sandoval, he claimed he was on his cell phone when he swerved off the road, but Silverthorne officers said his speech was slurred, his eyes were watery and pink and he smelled of alcohol. He also stated he had a gun in the vehicle, which was confiscated by Silverthorne Police. The report says Sandoval identified himself as a Denver Police officer and asked for the responding officers to "help a fellow officer out and take him home."... "I'll tell you what; we used to take care of police when I used to work in Chicago. We take care of each other. You suck. I have never, ever, ever (expletive) another policeman. And I don't know what you guys do up here," he said. "You guys are being over the top because you think I'm a bad policeman. I'm such a bad person. I didn't do anything you (expletive) haven't done in your lifetime."..."You are the biggest (expletive) I've ever met. I worked in Chicago. Chicago PD and now I work in Denver. You know what, I've worked in two big cities and you know what, this is not the way we treated (expletive) the police, never. God bless you. I hope you feel good about yourself when you go home tonight," Sandoval said. Should police arrest other police found to be driving under the influence or should they just look the other way? None...just bear in mind that New Jersey was one of the LAST states to lower the D.U.I. limit from a point .1 to a .08. The reason why that is is because the State Police conducted a study and concluded that the roads would not be appreciably safer by lowering the B.A.C. especially not in any relation to the extent of the consequences imposed by a conviction. That is why if you blow a .08 in NJ, you will lose your license for 3 months instead of blowing anything over a .08 which will fetch you a 7 month suspension. On average, first offense D.U.I. injects about $15,000.00 into the "system". Fines, surcharges, attorney fees, increased insurance premiums, payments to the Intoxicated Driver's Resource Center, etc.

Termyn8or -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/15/2011 4:48:30 AM)
That's why I took the other way to deal with it. Fuck that money game. I have PAID OUT OF POCKET FOR EVERY FUCKING ACCIDENT IN WHICH I WAS AT FAULT, and that was only two, one in 1988 and one in 1978. I WILL get a car. After a few moves, even if I have to set up a dummy corporation I will have a car, and soon. Motherfuckers when I cause damage I take care of it, they can take their other shit and shove it up their ass. And their seat belt laws too. Fukum. If I damage someone I will make it right and I ALWAYS have. All the rest of this shit, they can go fuck themselves. I don't care what they say, or what they say I have to do. I give more creedence to an old episode of The Outer Limits. No shit. T^T

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/15/2011 5:55:59 AM)
How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? Absolutely none. How much slack are they given? I would say in most instances, too much. Being a cop is like being in a close fraternity of brothers (and sisters). Working together in a dangerous job helps you to bond in a way I think few of us understand unless we've been there. Does this make their behavior of defending their own (even when the individual is wrong) correct? Of course not, but it does make it somewhat understandable. Let's face it, it's a shitty job. It's like being a politician these days, anyone who wants that job, I don't trust to do it. Sure, like politicians, you can say cops should be held to higher standards. Exactly which corrupt entity would you like policing those higher standards? That cops and criminals and politicians and gangsters have so much in common is not a coincidence; it's a symptom of how morally corrupt our society has become. Although I believe most individuals have an internal code of ethics, many are struggling for mere survival, and ethics gets pushed down lower and lower on the priority list. If you are staving for food, are you not going to steal a loaf of bread? If you tell me you would not, I will reply that you have never really been hungry. When so many people fall through the cracks of our piss poor social structures, it's no surprise the criminals and politicians and cops and gangsters are right there to capitalize on it. Excuse the rant, I'll get off my soap box now, even though I love being up here, it makes me so much taller. .

Termyn8or -> RE: How much slack should cops cut other cops caught drunk driving? (8/17/2011 1:04:36 AM)
"How much slack are *they* given?" There was a time when they were not THEY. We had them here to protect and serve us. They were part of us. This has changed. Happy ? (sometimes I say "happy now" but it wasn't called for here, but you know what I mean) Peace officer, police officer, sherriff, a few others, they are not all the same. What who has become over the years is just about in line with what has happened to society. But the sherriff is usually on your side, you can't count on that from the rest of the uniformed. Believe it or not, the sherriff has a different functuion and so do his deputies. T^T

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