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WTF? What if he sprouted wings, began to walk on all fours, and converted to Mormonism?

Hypotheticals are too easy.

Let me sum up your argument and the counter to it.

Your argument is that he is a piece of trash. Which is true, but it doesn't change the fact that the officers, who should IMO be held to a higher standard than average citizens, broke the law when they beat him. The beating was done when he was defenseless.

When the verdict was announced, it incited outrage. The rioters felt that the justice system had failed them, so they expressed themselves illegally.

Let me sum it up for you:

King - piece of crap.
Beating officers - pieces of crap.
Justice system that acquitted them - piece of crap.
Rioters - Pissed off pieces of crap.

I believe that you are arguing over the relative crappiness of various pieces.

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ORIGINAL: YSG

How not to get your ass kicked by the police

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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Well again, as I said, I'm not excusing the excessive use of force but he created the situation that caused the outcome.

But you are excusing it. People are arrested for reckless driving all the time and yet they don't get the beating he did.

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

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It would not have happened if he had pulled over instead of fleeing from the police on a high-speed chase in excess of 100 mph.

considering that it also happens to people who AREN'T fleeing at 100 mph, i don't really think it would have made a difference.

But he was.

Let me ask you something.  What if he had plowed into another car during that chase and killed a young child?  Would you still be viewing him as a victim?

WTF?  What if he sprouted wings, began to walk on all fours, and converted to Mormonism?

Hypotheticals are too easy.

Let me sum up your argument and the counter to it.

Your argument is that he is a piece of trash.  Which is true, but it doesn't change the fact that the officers, who should IMO be held to a higher standard than average citizens, broke the law when they beat him.  The beating was done when he was defenseless.

When the verdict was announced, it incited outrage.  The rioters felt that the justice system had failed them, so they expressed themselves illegally.

Let me sum it up for you:

King - piece of crap.
Beating officers - pieces of crap.
Justice system that acquitted them - piece of crap.
Rioters - Pissed off pieces of crap.

I believe that you are arguing over the relative crappiness of various pieces.

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Rioting is just an excuse for people to take out their frustrations in their own life and blame it on something or someone else.

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It's not a hypothetical.

According to police reports he was going up to 117 mph.

Do you think at that speed there was a high probability of an accident?

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Let me ask you something.  What if he had plowed into another car during that chase and killed a young child?  Would you still be viewing him as a victim?

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It's not a hypothetical.

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This is the douchebag that people rioted in support of.

55 dead, more than 2,000 injured and property damage in excess of $1B. All over this guy. Amazing.

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Well again, as I said, I'm not excusing the excessive use of force but he created the situation that caused the outcome.

But you are excusing it. People are arrested for reckless driving all the time and yet they don't get the beating he did.

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What I am saying, which you seem to be ignoring, is that none of this would have happened if he simply pulled over.

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Let me ask you something.  What if he had plowed into another car during that chase and killed a young child?  Would you still be viewing him as a victim?

THAT is a hypothetical.

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It's not a hypothetical.

Yes, it is.

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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What I am saying, which you seem to be ignoring, is that none of this would have happened if he simply pulled over.

Yeah, maybe but not necessarily. His reckless driving gave them an excuse. Who's to say they wouldn't have found another excuse. We are both speculating.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Let me ask you something.  What if he had plowed into another car during that chase and killed a young child?  Would you still be viewing him as a victim?

THAT is a hypothetical.

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It's not a hypothetical.

Yes, it is.

Are we back in grade school?

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as a native angelino, i'm jumping into this one...

the rodney king beating and aftermath was not a single event just focusing on one man.
in the weeks leading up to this, we had a rising number of police brutality claims.

there was footage from a few cases of white police officers beating african-american men and boys...all unarmed.
those daring to shoot the videos were being harassed and threatened.

rodney king, while unarmed, was hit 56 times with batons before taken into custody. he was outnumbered 5 to 1.
most of us in the city were outraged.

AND THEN...the court case was moved to simi valley, which was in ventura county, NOT los angeles. simi valley at the time was long known for being the KKK capital of california. again, there was outrage from the residents of los angeles. this seemed convenient...moving the case from a rich multicultural city, to a white suburb in another county known for not only its racist ties, but also for being a community where law enforcement lived and played in large numbers.

the trial did not disappoint. the simi valley community did what we knew it would and let all of those officers off the hook. it was yet another case where the justice system took care of itself, and ignored the rights and the needs of its citizens.

for any who think the actions of the police were just, i welcome you to familiarize yourself with the Christopher Commission and its findings.

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You know I'm glad that Rodney King's beating was publicized. It's harder to deny police brutality when it's staring at you from your TV or newspaper.