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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 8:23:17 AM   
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how do you use a voltswagan for play?


violet wand... im such an idiot

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 10:25:08 AM   
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You are not all taking about the same thing as has been mentioned many times,
there can be a great difference between different products. 
 
I can create an electric flyswatter that can inflict any level of pain from light to
intense.  If anyone wants to know how to do this with parts bought from Radio
Shack for under $10 they can message me.
 
The basic idea is to solder wires to the battery terminals in the device.  Then
buy a battery holder that will hold two batteries together in series.  Install,
the right rheostat in the line, and you can vary the supplied voltage from 0-3v.
 
As you decrease the voltage delivered to the voltage multiplier, you
decrease the output voltage and the shock strength.
 
In general, voltage is directly propotional to amperage.  So if 10 volts produces
10 amps, 20 volts will produce 20 amps.    This is true if resistance remains
constant, but increased voltage can sometimes increase resistance, sometimes
decrease resistance.  So, it is important to know how voltage effects the
resister.    Lower voltage and amperage can sometimes be much more dangerous
than higher voltage and amperage.  Low amperage can cause ventricular
fibulation.  This causes the heart to spasm, and beat irregularly.  A defibulater
can stop ventricular fibulation.  That is the device that shocks the heart
into pumping regularly again. 
 
It only takes 5-20 milliamps to kill someone.  Humans generally have very
high resistance.  Your body resistance can be anywhere from 50,000 ohms
to 10 or 20 megaohms.
 
Water lowers resistance.  This is especially true if the water is salty. 
Sweat is salt water.  If the skin is broken resistance can go down dramatically.
If your skin is dry, it will be a poor conductor, if moist a better conductor.
Both voltage and amperage can lower human body resistance with time 
So, current flow or amperage can increase without an increase in voltage
when voltage is applied to the human body.  Different parts of the body are
more conductive than other parts.  Moist parts of the body are 100-1000
times more conductive than dry parts. And the greater the surface area
of the electrode, the less resistance.  So, a metal dildo electrode
will conduct much more current than just touching the end of a wire
to a dry finger. Two metal dildos inserted into two body openings require
very little voltage to create a considerable effect.  Alligator clips on nipples 
increase current flow 100 times greater than the same voltage applied
to metal nipple clamps. It is much better to use electrodes used by 
electrocardiograms.
 
When voltage is applied to the nipples some current goes through the heart. 
As long as this remains below 0 milliamps this can be safe.  Transformers
are unable to produce more current than they produce when the secondary
windings are shorted.  There is little chance of a transformer shorting out
during play. Zero milliamp fuses can be inserted in series to ensure no more
than 0 milliamps can be delivered.
 
I guess a sub would really have to trust a top pretty well before she would
allow him to attach electrodes to her nipples, to her clit, and inset
dildo-shaped electrodes in her openings.  I suppose something like this
should be held off till at least the second play session. . . . Just kidding. 
It was a joke, okay!   Just a joke!   But something like this could be done
safely and effectively.  By effectively I mean it could produce the right kind
of pain.

Chiroprators use a device that vibrates muscles.  It can be used to
vibrate the cheeks of the ass, and the stomach area near the
erogenous zone.
 
A/C shocks feel better than D/C shocks. 
 
Transformers have a limit as to how much amperage they can output.
Every transformer is different.   When transformers output any amperage
there is a voltage drop in the secondary winding.  So a 12,000v transformer
can only output 12,000v at very low amperage.  As you increase the
amperage output, the voltage output decreases to near zero.  Still, I
wouldn't use 12,000v transformer on a human, they are best used on
with neod signs.  On the other hand if you connect one leg of a 12,000v
transformer to one end of a flourescent light bulb, and connect a lead
to the other end of the flourescent light bulb, this second lead is 100%
safe and produces a wonderfully erotic shock.  You can split this lead
into two leads and touch these two leads to nipples, and the flourescent
light will glow.  I guess this gives new meaning to the phrase, "You light
up my life."   There is not much pain involved here, the shock is relatively
mild and can be adjusted to any strength. 
 

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 10:31:57 AM   
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Mine a yellow handled thing I got for three pounds(uk),I made the mistake of daring someone to touch it with their tongue,they would'nt do it,so I did-bad idea!!!

On the insect 'zapping' front,it is so good to see the little buggers go down in smoke,but you have to watch where it lands,for fear of fire.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 10:39:40 AM   
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quote:

In a non-BDSM context, it's fun to tell people they're electric guitars, hand massagers, and other innocent things.

Oh the things masos do to non-masos.

Actually, the one I had, I could touch it, it would spark, but I didn't flinch anymore... so people really did think it was innocent....

I am thutch a bitch!

Yours,


benji


you are sooooooo

pro

Dur and on these things.. der Shocking!

duh

lol


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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 5:52:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: QuietDom

The model I have cost me about $5 (Canadian, no less) and I'm quite satisified with it.  It has only a single button to press.  The thing is, if you have your hand up against the wires and hold down the button, you barely even feel a tingle.  There's certainly no paralysis effect.  The way this one's used, I have to hold down the button for about a half-second before making contact, to charge up the capacitors.  Then at contact the capacitors discharge with quite a satisfying little arc.  Until you pull it away and recharge the capacitors again, though, that's the end of the show.

I love my flyswatter, and the two subs to encounter it have both hated it.


All the ones I've used are similar to the one you describe.  I've got a handy dandy little modification that someone I played with showed me and I put into an instructional pdf.  Essentially you remove the racket and neck from the handle and solder the two feed wires to upholstry tacks.  Now you have all that charge at two little points and the device is small enough to get into those hard to reach places.  If anyone wants the instructional pdf they are welcome to email me on the other side.

Most folks hate it (not all, but most).  It's a lot of fun.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/3/2006 6:18:57 PM   
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Then again, I love electrical play, drool when I see Violet Wands, and get bouncy hyper happy when someone suggests using one on me.


I'm extremely partial to my Folsom PSG-Max units (and the plethora of deliciously evil attachments to be had with them).  It's a pricy box but not as pricy as some.  I have two and could write a book of electroplay stories - all near and dear to my heart.  I tell folks it's a 'tens unit on steroids.'

Yuppers, I do love the electrical play.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 12:42:03 AM   
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I own one, and it's use is definately dependant on the sub. Some love it, some hate it and still others have a love/hate relationship with it.

One gotcha is this; these things have something called a capacitor. What a capacitor does is store a charge and then release the charge quickly. It charges slower than it releases the charge. The longer you hold the buttons down, the bigger the charge. It's similar in principle to a stun gun. Stun guns have several large capacitors, where the flyswatter probably only has one. Since these are made by several different companies, the size of the capacitor will vary a great deal, as well as the design of the grid and materials used. Some will cause spark burns, others won't. (Did my research.)

Overall, they're generally safe, and the teeny burns will heal quickly. Just don't modify them. Adding capacitors to get a bigger zing just might make the batteries explode.(Overheat)


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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 3:11:22 AM   
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I have recently tried to use this device and decided to test it out before using it on pup. I just want to say, OH MY GOD!

 
A number of different types of  fly swatter electrical swatty thingies exist. Some take 9v batteries - owies and COOL. Some take AA not so bad. I remember the night I had it pressed on her ass the entire time and would set it off when I thought she would least expect it. Muwhaahhhaa. Eh, I swear I'm a nice guy! Really.
 
D (owner of j).
 
 

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 8:33:21 AM   
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Mine takes 9 volt battery and I havent used the dang thing since I posted this lol funny to see an old post of mine resurface <s>

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 9:15:29 AM   
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     Mine takes two D-cells and emits a high-frequency whine when you push the button.  I love letting her hear that when she's bound and blindfolded.

      They don't seem to age well though.  Even with a fresh set of Energizers, it just doesn't seem to kick like it did new.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 9:21:11 AM   
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*Sits back and makes plans for a world tour that's definately going to have to include the homes of everyone she knows who owns a Violet Wand or Flyswatter
 
(hmmmmmm.... if I spend 2 days in any given location, it should only take me 3 years to finish the trip.... )

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 9:21:13 AM   
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    Mine takes two D-cells and emits a high-frequency whine when you push the button.  I love letting her hear that when she's bound and blindfolded.

     They don't seem to age well though.  Even with a fresh set of Energizers, it just doesn't seem to kick like it did new.

Ah, so the secret is to buy a new one after the third use? <s>

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 11:59:54 AM   
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Ah, so the secret is to buy a new one after the third use? <s>



         I use it for the damn flies as well as on her.   I'd guesstimate it was really solid for 1000 zaps.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 12:30:50 PM   
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Another thing that has capacitors to charge up is flash guns.I once saw plans for how to make a stun gun out of a flash unit,I sometimes wonder how effective it would be.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 2:56:01 PM   
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*Sits back and makes plans for a world tour that's definately going to have to include the homes of everyone she knows who owns a Violet Wand or Flyswatter
 
(hmmmmmm.... if I spend 2 days in any given location, it should only take me 3 years to finish the trip.... )


Hey Rhi, you have been "sitting back" alot today! lol Is this your day off??? <g>

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 4:03:07 PM   
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Yep! LOL I work from home and pretty much set my own hours, so there are days (especially when I'm currently caught up with myself on time critical projects) that I declare a Day Off even if it's not the weekend.  Since I've been having to concentrate primarily on being readily available to deal with sick family member today, I declared it one of my "days off" rather than stressing about whether or not I was going to have to jump and run to deal with medical issues.

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RE: Electrified Flyswatter - 8/4/2006 4:31:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: beenwhipped


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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

I plan on adding both a VW and one of the flyswatters.
something tells me im about to realy show my inexperience here.

how do you use a voltswagan for play?



::sputtering coffee all over the monitor...:: VW= Violet Wand.

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