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Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:37:10 PM   
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WASHINGTON — President Obama plans to announce Wednesday evening that he will order the withdrawal of 10,000 American troops from Afghanistan this year, and another 20,000 troops, the remainder of the 2009 “surge,” by the end of next summer, according to administration officials and diplomats briefed on the decision.
Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout


About time. Now if he would get all the troops out of Iraq that Bush got in there in his illegal war, things would probably improve all the way around.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:41:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		There has been a steep price to pay for Afghanistan. It wasn't paid under Bush, because he was consumed with his idiot war, but we have fully realized the pain of Afghanistan under Obama.



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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:43:05 PM   
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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:43:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its a start.While armchair warriors think you can just pull out like having quickie sex, it doenst happen like that in the real world, not disagreeing with you at all Jlf, but just glad that the trooops will be rotationed home, .Hopefully without any more casualties, its not fast enough for me, but ....Im so not aware of all the implications. nor do I want to be

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:44:39 PM   
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I wonder how the cons will react.



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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:45:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		That pisses me off. Ok, I suppose I should clarify. It pisses me off that we are waiting another whole year to bring those people home. I could see if they were pahsing it in, over the next twelve months, with the last coming home... but that wont be what happens, and we all know it.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 1:45:49 PM   
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(There'll be a few along reacting in a minute, I suspect.)

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 3:31:32 PM   
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No you don't, sweetie: you know how the cons will react.
(There'll be a few along reacting in a minute, I suspect.)


More like a hour or so, but dinner interrupted my reading.

I think it's about fucking time. Now when are we going to bring the rest of them home?


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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 4:30:42 PM   
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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 4:49:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

That`s an election year.

I wonder how the cons will react.





I don't qualify as a con, but I ain't a lib either. Wasn't a Bush girl and not an Obama girl. This paragraph from the article sums it up for me:

"About 68,000 American troops would be left in Afghanistan after the withdrawals, roughly twice the number who were there when Mr. Obama took office. "

So Pres. Obama has sent more troops to Afghanastan than Bush and plans to keep more troops there than Bush. And more young Americans have died there under Obama and leaving more there means more deaths. And the recorded deaths in the Afghanastan conflict do not include the suicides there, which are the highest in US Military history.

Bush was wrong, Obama is not only wrong, he's running up the numbers, not decreasing the numbers and not close to getting our men and women home. This so called withdrawl is nothing but a red herring.

Ron Paul is the only politician who has this thing right, imo.

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So whatever this withdrawl plan is... if falls way too short for me.


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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 5:19:01 PM   
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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 5:33:35 PM   
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He sent in 30,000 troops,

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 5:43:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Feb 2009 he announced sending in 17000.
December that year he announced another 30000.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 5:48:24 PM   
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Umm.. where were you when we discussed him putting more troops there? Its been happening since 2009 that I recall.



Didn't know I couldn't comment on a topic unless I had participated in a the parent thread.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 5:49:26 PM   
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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 6:07:48 PM   
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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 6:13:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think most people did. Unless im mistaken, its what Bush promised before he left. I just want them all home... ok.. as many as possible since I do realize some will have to stay. The 2012 promise just pisses me off because it seems like its a push for election time. Call me cynical.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 6:15:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		that a third of them will be home before the end of the year is good, and lets face it... no matter what the numbers were or when, if he has said, 2013, people would have said not soon enough, we dont have the money, etc etc etc:)

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 6:18:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		1/6th Darlin. There is over 60000 troops still there.

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RE: Obama Opts for Faster Afghan Pullout - 6/22/2011 6:35:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		nooooo :) I meant the 10,000 out of the 30,000 not the full forces figure:) mea culpa I should have stated that more clearly


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