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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 10:49:05 AM

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You don't "BELIEVE" in science.

Science doesn't require belief. That's why it's SCIENCE.

One can question the proof regarding human evolution. You either believe it to have enough proof to substantiate it, or you don't. The scientific process does not end just because you have a theory, when other theories may come along and supplant what we think we know today....

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 12:38:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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You don't "BELIEVE" in science.

Science doesn't require belief. That's why it's SCIENCE.

One can question the proof regarding human evolution. You either believe it to have enough proof to substantiate it, or you don't. The scientific process does not end just because you have a theory, when other theories may come along and supplant what we think we know today....

but those new theories require evidence. So far all the evidence supports evolution. Until that changes its the only game in town.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 12:50:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

You don't "BELIEVE" in science.

Science doesn't require belief. That's why it's SCIENCE.

One can question the proof regarding human evolution. You either believe it to have enough proof to substantiate it, or you don't. The scientific process does not end just because you have a theory, when other theories may come along and supplant what we think we know today....

Do you use GPS?

The Theory of Relativity works.

Just like the Theory of Evolution.

That's why we have MRSA....

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 12:52:26 PM

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I know people who believe in the power of the scientific method hate the word "belief"... they would rather use the word "think"..

It really is semantics as far as I am concerned, a way to separate what scientist do from what people of faith do...

From Wiki... their opening defining line on the word "belief"

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.[1

contrast this with "think"... all 6 definitions
verb (used without object)
1.
to have a conscious mind, to some extent of reasoning, remembering experiences, making rational decisions, etc.
2.
to employ one's mind rationally and objectively in evaluating or dealing with a given situation: Think carefully before you begin.
3.
to have a certain thing as the subject of one's thoughts: I was thinking about you. We could think of nothing else.
4.
to call something to one's conscious mind: I couldn't think of his phone number.
5.
to consider something as a possible action, choice, etc.: She thought about cutting her hair.
6.
to invent or conceive of something: We thought of a new plan.
7.
to have consideration or regard for someone: Think of others first.
8.
to esteem a person or thing as indicated: to think badly of someone.
9.
to have a belief or opinion as indicated: I think so.
10.
(of a device or machine, especially a computer) to use artificial intelligence to perform an activity analogous to human thought.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 2:48:27 PM

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Look Man, I could only sit through three minutes and twenty-four seconds of these cunt talking. (apologies if members of CM were in that vid). You know, why the fuck do they even ask that question of people who are destined to get by on their looks ? It's a fucking waste of time. Not only is the subject completely moot, the people are as well.

This is an issue I resolved when I was about five years old. As some kind of reverse warped, time perveted asshole that I am, I figured it out. God, or whoever created all this shit in seven days. Now, for the mental invalids here or there, how long was a day ? Our days are 24 hours, because that's how fast the Earth spins.

OK, now try to follow this now, I know it is rocket science - how long was a day BEFORE the Earth was created ?

Ummmmmmmmmm.

While the "blonde" types look at the cellphone and start texting, the answer is clear. Like I said a five year old can figure it out. OUR day is 24 hours. God's day might be 24 billion years. How the fuck do we know ?

So my conclusion is that these cunt are not as developed intellectually as I was at five fucking years old.

Lucky for them that they will get by on their looks. Can they cook ? I doubt it, I couldn't cook much at five. It took me until about eight or ten to learn to cook. Therefore these cunt are worthless.

T^T

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 2:51:43 PM

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Well, it was six days, and on the seventh he rested, so you are going to have to get out the old abacus and go to the tangerine colored column to recipher that one.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 2:54:03 PM

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Oh shit, not the abacus !

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 3:17:18 PM

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julia,

Good posts, but frankly they are wasted on fargle. Only he knows The Truth and The Facts, and everyone else is .... deficient in some ways.

Which is why I said at the beginning that he was an ideologue, unable or unwilling to consider anything that challenges his own preconceptions.

And your posts clearly show why you aren't an ideologue.

Firm

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 4:47:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I know people who believe in the power of the scientific method hate the word "belief"... they would rather use the word "think"..

It really is semantics as far as I am concerned, a way to separate what scientist do from what people of faith do...

From Wiki... their opening defining line on the word "belief"

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.[1

The Law of Gravity doesn't care whether or not someone holds it to be true.

You WILL fall down. Period.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 4:53:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I know people who believe in the power of the scientific method hate the word "belief"... they would rather use the word "think"..

It really is semantics as far as I am concerned, a way to separate what scientist do from what people of faith do...

From Wiki... their opening defining line on the word "belief"

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.[1

The Law of Gravity doesn't care whether or not someone holds it to be true.

You WILL fall down. Period.

Hmmmm... so what does that have to do with believing something to be true and thinking it to be true.

And btw, scientists have constantly been convinced that what they thought was true, only to find out later it wasn't....

As we know more, our knowledge changes what we thought we knew.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 5:05:39 PM

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Even reactionaries don't believe that hot air descends downward.

Well it mostly does around here.

K.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 7:19:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I know people who believe in the power of the scientific method hate the word "belief"... they would rather use the word "think"..

It really is semantics as far as I am concerned, a way to separate what scientist do from what people of faith do...

From Wiki... their opening defining line on the word "belief"

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true.[1

The Law of Gravity doesn't care whether or not someone holds it to be true.

You WILL fall down. Period.

So ... you are claiming that the "Law of Gravity" is an established fact?

You understand "gravity", fargle?

Firm

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 7:45:40 PM

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So ... you are claiming that the "Law of Gravity" is an established fact?

The Law of Gravity claims that physical bodies are attracted to each with a force proportional to their mass. Anyone who has spent an afternoon observing the variety of couples that can be found strolling through any city park knows that that's bullshit.

K.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 7:48:13 PM

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So ... you are claiming that the "Law of Gravity" is an established fact?

The Law of Gravity claims that physical bodies are attracted to each with a force proportional to their mass. Anyone who has spent an afternoon observing the variety of couples that can be found strolling through any city park knows that that's bullshit.

K.

Damn, K.

I always did think you were probably the sharpest and smartest poster on the forums.

Another home-run!

Firm

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 7:53:08 PM

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FR:

Well, it's my bedtime, and I'm going to be pretty busy tomorrow, so I may have to continue this some other time ...

Night all.

Firm

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 8:08:06 PM

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So ... you are claiming that the "Law of Gravity" is an established fact?

The Law of Gravity claims that physical bodies are attracted to each with a force proportional to their mass. Anyone who has spent an afternoon observing the variety of couples that can be found strolling through any city park knows that that's bullshit.

K.

Well, you got it almost right..

The Law of Gravity claims that physical bodies are attracted to each other with a force proportional to their mass AND inversely exponentially proportional to their distance from each other So, in fact, their current distance will be the dominant quantifier in the equation since it's exponential. Distance very quickly dominates mass in determining gravitational force except for objects that are very close to each other in comparison to their relative mass.

Good try at explaining it though.

PPtk

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 8:27:36 PM

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Yeah, and that's why the whole doomsday "planetary alignment" stuff is bogus. Stuff's way too far away to have effects on us.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/22/2011 8:39:34 PM

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Yeah, and that's why the whole doomsday "planetary alignment" stuff is bogus. Stuff's way too far away to have effects on us. And just not nearly massive enough

Correct. There are two forces which far surpass any other with regard to the orbit of our planet.
1) Inertia - Our planet is moving through space very, very quickly and it has more than just a bit of mass. changing it's path would take one hell of a lot of force.
2) The gravitational pull of the Sun. As mentioned, distance is usually king - but it's relative. The sun is enormous, and even though we are about 8 Light-Minutes (A LONG way) from it, it's just so massive that it still exerts a remarkable gravitational pull on our planet. In fact, it exerts all the centripetal force necessary to keep the Earth rotating around itself rather than flinging off through the galaxy in a straight line as inertia would prefer.

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/23/2011 5:24:56 AM

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Yeah, and that's why the whole doomsday "planetary alignment" stuff is bogus. Stuff's way too far away to have effects on us. And just not nearly massive enough

Correct. There are two forces which far surpass any other with regard to the orbit of our planet.
1) Inertia - Our planet is moving through space very, very quickly and it has more than just a bit of mass. changing it's path would take one hell of a lot of force.
2) The gravitational pull of the Sun. As mentioned, distance is usually king - but it's relative. The sun is enormous, and even though we are about 8 Light-Minutes (A LONG way) from it, it's just so massive that it still exerts a remarkable gravitational pull on our planet. In fact, it exerts all the centripetal force necessary to keep the Earth rotating around itself rather than flinging off through the galaxy in a straight line as inertia would prefer.

No offense, Pilot, but you seem to be "humor challenged".

Twice now.

Firm

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RE: RNC Trophy Wives -- Class of 2011 - 6/23/2011 6:04:32 AM

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Just to be perfectly punctillious, there is no law of gravity. The law (and actually it has problems here and there, but close enough for the girls we go out with, it was really a theory)...

Law of gravitation. The process, not the thing, cuz we still don't quite know what the fuck it is in the material sense.

If that does not lend too much gravitas to the proceedings here....

Newt.

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