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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I thought that this might be a hate crime against a tg person, until I saw the victim's video explaining what happened.  She wasn't even on their radar until they thought she was talking to their man.  So I think this incident might have happened even if she was a non tg woman who was the same color as them.

Interesting though, how some people like to point to this story with sort of a wink and a nudge, as though this is evidence of something that they don't want to say aloud...

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

...I thought most TS-s were good at fighting. 

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T.V.s/T.G.s surely must understand that most people don't agree with their lifestyle and if they're going to go out in public dressed like that they should surely expect some "feedback."
But, you can't assault *anyone* without breaking the law.
I try to be open-minded about things like this but I have to admit that when I realise that a "woman" isn't a woman but a man dressed like a woman it just creeps me out. I wouldn't start yelling at them or anything like that, just keep my distance.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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T.V.s/T.G.s surely must understand that most people don't agree with their lifestyle and if they're going to go out in public dressed like that they should surely expect some "feedback."
But, you can't assault *anyone* without breaking the law.
I try to be open-minded about things like this but I have to admit that when I realise that a "woman" isn't a woman but a man dressed like a woman it just creeps me out. I wouldn't start yelling at them or anything like that, just keep my distance.

Living in major cities, I have come into contact with many TG/TS people. Hopefully it wouldn't bother you so much once you got used to it. People are just people after all.

There was a lady that worked at my university that is transgendered. She dressed really nice and had a nice figure, but she had been in an accident that disfigured her hands a great deal. Her transgenderedness never bothered me, but looking at her hands bothered me because I empathized with whatever pain she suffered when they were first injured, and the difficulty she still has using them. But her gender, it bothered me not at all.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Did anyone ever tell you that you are creepy?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Here is something that perplexes me, the concept of "hate crime". In my view, most violent crimes are "hate crimes". I do not see how giving an extra penalty for a crime because of the motivations behind it to be all that useful...

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

There are a lot of men out there that are violent towards women and hate them, yet, there is no extra penalty for violence against women as a protected group, and if you ask me they need it as much as, if not more than, other groups. I would venture to guess that women have more violence perpetrated against them, on average, than any other "group"

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
I don't know if this is a "hate crime" or not. I think Juliaoceana pretty much nailed it.
If someone wants to dress up like the opposite sex in their own home that's one thing but if they go out *in public* like that some people will notice and yell at them or tease them. People do have first amendment rights and "offending" people is not against the law.
T.V.s/T.G.s surely must understand that most people don't agree with their lifestyle and if they're going to go out in public dressed like that they should surely expect some "feedback."
But, you can't assault *anyone* without breaking the law.
I try to be open-minded about things like this but I have to admit that when I realise that a "woman" isn't a woman but a man dressed like a woman it just creeps me out. I wouldn't start yelling at them or anything like that, just keep my distance.

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Second, women are half the world's population.  You think that might have anything to do with it? Women have violent acts committed against them for any number of reasons, which can be exacerbated by an overall contempt for women.  Very rarely is a woman attacked for no other reason than being a woman.  But if a woman walked into a restuarant, will she get her ass beat by men just for being a woman? Are there certain predominantly male parts of town  that beat up any woman who wanders in?  Trust me, I am well aware that a women walking alone at night is at much greater risk than a man in the same situation (found that out the hard way) but, can you think of any situation where a woman is at greater risk than a transwoman?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Second, women are half the world's population.  You think that might have anything to do with it? Women have violent acts committed against them for any number of reasons, which can be exacerbated by an overall contempt for women.  Very rarely is a woman attacked for no other reason than being a woman.  But if a woman walked into a restuarant, will she get her ass beat by men just for being a woman? Are there certain predominantly male parts of town  that beat up any woman who wanders in?  Trust me, I am well aware that a women walking alone at night is at much greater risk than a man in the same situation (found that out the hard way) but, can you think of any situation where a woman is at greater risk than a transwoman?

Women get raped because they are women. Rape is a crime of violence. Rape is a crime against women. Rape is a hate crime.

The fact of the matter is women are targeted for violence much more than men are, and they are targeted for such violence because they are women.