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Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:06:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: So you are hoping that someone who disagrees with you dies? Aren't you the piece of shit. If you were an actual person instead of some hippie wannabe fraud I might be upset at that. No eyes watering for you, sorry. Where's the hippie love I hear so much about? Peace and all? lol Greedy Top has my phone number. She's been to my house. She's met me. Are you saying that she's a liar, making shit up?

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:10:16 PM)
quote: Er, didn't a few of the Dead take serious issue with the idea that they were 'his' band? I know that Phil Lesh and the first dead keyboards player had serious problems with that... Er ... Yeah, I bet there were a LOT of things Phil objected to... He wanted Bob Weir out of the band all through the early 70s. And a month and half ago, it was Phil who rushed everybody through re-learning Alice D ... So ah... I guess what I would tell ya is times change, attitudes change and what you're referring to changed a loooooong time ago. Before I saw my first show in the early 70s and certainly before you're day <grin>. Just an FYI, while I didn't attend the Furthur show in march which became the O's semi-official memorial, but a friend of mine sat on the soundboard for the show as wing man. The nice thing about being part of that extended family is very little stays hot for very long. Bottom line is there has always been somebody bitching about something. Given that Owsley was a VERY welcome guest @ shows for as far back as I can remember, what's it matter if there was some ruffled feathers while he was financing them? They had their flap, Owsley sorta had to hit the road, and Dan Healy stepped in and made their sound Monstrous...So it kinda all worked out for the best. But any inference that owsley was persona-non-grata at shows is just plain hooey. Peace, Skipper BTW - You like Warren Haynes at all? My homies got a superb recording of the show last night in Boston: Have a listen Here's the bit torrent link if you want a great copy of the show: http://bt.etree.org/download.php/544893/whb2011-05-13.flac16.torrent Here's the details: Warren Haynes Band Orpheum Theatre Boston, Massachusetts 5/13/2011 Source: Schoeps CCM4V'S(din)>Lunatec V2>Benchmark AD2K> Sound Devices 722 (24/48) FOB/DFC/KFC/ZFC/AARP Clamped To The Rail, Row A Mezzanine, Seat 205 DSP: Sound Devices 722>Sound Forge 9.0>CD Wave>flac(16) Recorded By: Z-Man Seeded By: Z-Man Disc I 1st Set 01 Tuning/Crowd 02 Man In Motion 03 The River's Gonna Rise 04 Sick Of My Shadow 05 Every Day Feels Like A Holiday 06 Power And The Glory 07 Invisible 08 Hatiesburg Hustle Disc II 1st Set Con't 01 Fire In The Kitchen > 02 Take A Bullet > 03 I Wish > 04 Take A Bullet 2nd Set: 05 Tuning 06 Before You Came 07 Getting Old Before My Time 08 Wasted Time 09 Raven Black Night 10 The Band Joins Warren 11 A Change Is Gonna Come Disc III 2nd Set Con't 01 #I'll Be The One > 02 I'll Take You There > 03 I'll Be The One > 04 32-20 Blues > 05 Drum Solo > 06 Jam > 07 32-20 Blues 08 On A Real Lonely Night 09 Soulshine > 10 Tupelo Honey > 11 Soulshine Encore: 12 Tear Me Down Warren Solo Acoustic # With Blue Sky Teases Warren Haynes - Guitar And Vocals Ruthie Foster _ Vocals Ron Holloway - Saxophone Nigel Hall - Keyboards And Vocals Ron Johnson - Bass Terrence Higgins - Dums The 2nd song is My friend told me that the soulshine > Van Morrison's Tupelo Honey > soulshine was extra sweet! If you are familiar with bit torrent and the flac compression algorithm, basically what you need is here.And if you need the utilities ... here ya go: Torrent Client: http://www.vuze.com/ Install, going with defaults, then click this link and the download should begin immediately Then install and decompress the flac and convert the file with this program: http://apps.foxtab.com/audioconverter/ Sweet little audio conversion tool

Icarys -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:12:21 PM)
quote: Greedy Top has my phone number. She's been to my house. She's met me. Are you saying that she's a liar, making shit up? Oh okay. She's proof of something? The hippies I've met were wonderful people. Wouldn't say a single thing bad about anyone. You're no hippie..Who knows, maybe at one time but you've surely lost that way. Maybe it's the alcohol that's done that to you. Maybe life in general..The end result is still, you're no hippie. You're just an asshole wearing colorful shirts.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:20:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: Greedy Top has my phone number. She's been to my house. She's met me. Are you saying that she's a liar, making shit up? Oh okay. She's proof of something? The hippies I've met were wonderful people. Would say a single thing bad about anyone. You're no hippie..Who knows, maybe at one time but you've surely lost that way. Maybe it's the alcohol that's done that to you. Maybe life in general..The end result is still, you're no hippie. You're just an asshole wearing colorful shirts. Well thank you Neo for your marvelous psychological profile. I'll file it where I file the rest of your blatherings. You've never actually written anything I consider worth reading, so I'll just put you on block. Saves time for me. And those who read this exchange can decide for themselves just what kind of a person you are. I personally cannot imagine ever telling someone to take drugs and die. Tschüss.

Icarys -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:22:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: Greedy Top has my phone number. She's been to my house. She's met me. Are you saying that she's a liar, making shit up? Oh okay. She's proof of something? The hippies I've met were wonderful people. Would say a single thing bad about anyone. You're no hippie..Who knows, maybe at one time but you've surely lost that way. Maybe it's the alcohol that's done that to you. Maybe life in general..The end result is still, you're no hippie. You're just an asshole wearing colorful shirts. Well thank you Neo for your marvelous psychological profile. I'll file it where I file the rest of your blatherings. You've never actually written anything I consider worth reading, so I'll just put you on block. Saves time for me. And those who read this exchange can decide for themselves just what kind of a person you are. I personally cannot imagine ever telling someone to take drugs and die. Tschüss. Peace be with you brother.[8\|]

JstAnotherSub -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:28:35 PM)
RIP Bear Not to hijack, but there has got to be a rule against calling Art Linkletter a slimeball. I don't think it is fair to call him names because he is a product of the generation he came of age in.

TheRaptorJesus -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:35:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys Take some more drugs and follow your friend into the afterlife gramps. Way to reveal yourself as an ignorant sack of shit.

Icarys -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:47:17 PM)
quote: Way to reveal yourself as an ignorant sack of shit. Coming from someone who mocks peoples religion? You're not saint hyprocrite and your friend's no peace lover. Fuck you, you scaly bastard.

TheRaptorJesus -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:48:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Icarys quote: Way to reveal yourself as an ignorant sack of shit. Coming from someone who mocks peoples religion? You're not saint hyprocrite and your friend's no peace lover. Fuck you, you scaly bastard. Who's mocking what? And if there were mocking, how would it make one ignorant? If you're offended by Jesus-satire, you shouldn't have Neo as an avatar. You also should read up on the effects of the drugs you decry before you end up performing more foot worship on yourself.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 8:53:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub RIP Bear Not to hijack, but there has got to be a rule against calling Art Linkletter a slimeball. I don't think it is fair to call him names because he is a product of the generation he came of age in. I am sorry, but the man scapegoated LSD for his daughter's psychological problems, when he knew it was a lie. Not only that, but he took the show on the road, and profited from his daughter's death by becoming an anti-drug "warrior". You might want to read the Snopes link I thoughtfullly provided for you.

Icarys -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:04:10 PM)
quote: Who's mocking what? And if there were mocking, how would it make one ignorant? Just asking that was ignorant. You know full well what you're doing. Making fun of peoples beliefs and giving others shit. It's not nice when it's done back atya huh. Take your hand out of your sock puppets ass. You and your fella want compassion, try giving it. As for the drugs..I've done my share.[:D]

thishereboi -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:09:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub RIP Bear Not to hijack, but there has got to be a rule against calling Art Linkletter a slimeball. I don't think it is fair to call him names because he is a product of the generation he came of age in. I am sorry, but the man scapegoated LSD for his daughter's psychological problems, when he knew it was a lie. Not only that, but he took the show on the road, and profited from his daughter's death by becoming an anti-drug "warrior". You might want to read the Snopes link I thoughtfullly provided for you. How do you suppose you would react to the suicide of your youngest child? According to your link, he reaction was not unusual for someone in his position.

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:19:50 PM)
quote: Not to hijack, but there has got to be a rule against calling Art Linkletter a slimeball. I don't think it is fair to call him names because he is a product of the generation he came of age in. [image]local://upfiles/18637/55417E69434F462CA89CD9EF6F941ED7.jpg[/image]

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:36:32 PM)
quote: As for the drugs..I've done my share. [image]local://upfiles/18637/2D196C474CA64FB782FC70E8F74E558D.jpg[/image]

Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:41:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub RIP Bear Not to hijack, but there has got to be a rule against calling Art Linkletter a slimeball. I don't think it is fair to call him names because he is a product of the generation he came of age in. I am sorry, but the man scapegoated LSD for his daughter's psychological problems, when he knew it was a lie. Not only that, but he took the show on the road, and profited from his daughter's death by becoming an anti-drug "warrior". You might want to read the Snopes link I thoughtfullly provided for you. How do you suppose you would react to the suicide of your youngest child? According to your link, he reaction was not unusual for someone in his position. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a serious question, and not one of your usual "hit and runs". I have no idea how I would react. I think I would want to know why. But I know myself, and I know that I wouldn't try and build a castle on sand. I wouldn't try and blame my daughter's suicide on something which I had absolutely no evidence was involved. Evidently he was not thrilled that Diane was looking for something which his "straight" society could not provide. Apparently he thought that all those dirty hippies seduced her away from him, and he felt like he needed to assign blame. That was not uncommon back then. My own father tried to scapegoat drugs on my behavior when I was in my early (12) teens. He was unable to look in the mirror and see that his, and his wife's (my stepmother) behavior was directly responsible for my wanting to get away from them. My story is all too typical of the way things were back then. There was always some outside influence. It was always some "They" or "Them". The niggers. The hippies. The spics. The wops. "She's leaving home after living alone for many years... " Lennon and McCartney. I do not think you are able to understand the Zeitgeist of the 60s. The "Generation Gap" was very real. And the older generation was baffled. So they retreated into their Reader's Digest (what an abomination THAT was) and their Rotary Clubs and their John Birch Society (Fred Koch was a charter member and financial backer of: his kids are backing the Tea party. The Tea Party is merely a modern revision of the John Birch Society) and made the "gap" even wider. And blamed everything and everyone exceot themselves.

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 9:58:06 PM)
Here's a US Senator and Jerry Garcia talking about how Hippies really think... http://youtu.be/KldqYNV2Hwg

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 10:21:32 PM)
Hey... I'm as guilty as the next guy for taking this thread off track. And Owsley really did mean something to me. So I'll offer up one of his very best friends giving a New Years' Sermon http://youtu.be/2J490ZN2jV0 Watch Carefully For The Punchline

Hippiekinkster -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 10:34:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper Hey... I'm as guilty as the next guy for taking this thread off track. And Owsley really did mean something to me. So I'll offer up one of his very best friends giving a New Years' Sermon http://youtu.be/2J490ZN2jV0 Watch Carefully For The Punchline Owsley meant something to many of us, even those of us who only became 'experienced" after he did his thing. I was lucky enough to have had some White Lightning from a stash that had been stashed. Don't worry about taking thing" off track", as you say. It's my thread, and I say at the peak, it all means something. Man, I miss that "2 hours in" space. It's a special place. Last time I did shrooms, when I got there, it was like coming home.

SternSkipper -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/14/2011 10:40:38 PM)
quote: Owsley meant something to many of us, even those of us who only became 'experienced" after he did his thing. Which is why I am sure you opened up the thread... to pay homage to an old friend I get where you're coming from[:)]

Moonhead -> RE: The Bear is dead. (5/15/2011 4:51:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper Er ... Yeah, I bet there were a LOT of things Phil objected to... He wanted Bob Weir out of the band all through the early 70s. And a month and half ago, it was Phil who rushed everybody through re-learning Alice D ... So ah... I guess what I would tell ya is times change, attitudes change and what you're referring to changed a loooooong time ago. Before I saw my first show in the early 70s and certainly before you're day. Fair enough. That said, apart from John Perry Barlow, didn't most of the band want to get rid of Weir until he started to improve his chops a bit later? As you say though, there were calls to get rid of Lesh at times as well. (Which I'm not sure about: Tom Constanten's presence on Aoxomoxoa might not have suited the roots rockers, but that harpsichord part pretty much makes Mountains Of The Moon, doesn't it?) I think it was the all red meat diet they found objectionable, rather than the funding or the acid, in Owlsey's case, anyway. quote: BTW - You like Warren Haynes at all? Not heard any Haynes: if he can take a decent stab at Tupelo Honey, I'll have to check that out. Thank you.

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