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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 4:42:27 PM

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yeah, I used to think I wanted a home base. Then the light dawned and I saw I AM the home base, and it is a lot of responsibility. I just cut a check for 12,000, my portion of a fence shared with my neighbor. If I had a bent toward dishonesty, I would have kicked in the rest of my fence so that if the wind breaks more of my fence I won't have to pay another deductible. With a house there is insurance, taxes, repairs.. I long for the days when it was just the girls and I in a very small apartment.
I have had lots and little and lots again. I was never more free as when I had a one room apartment with nothing in it but a sleeper sofa, a 2 burner grill, and an ice chest.
*sigh*
I really miss the beach.

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I also can relate to the desire for freedom in the way you see it. Only, at least right now, for me........I need a home base. My little farmette on the hill is my refuge. I yearn for the gypsy caravan (ideally a lovely silver bullet of an Airstream!) but I know I also need my home base. I am working towards a time where I can have both.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 4:43:02 PM

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having a big iq doesn't give you life skills or common sence.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
Albert Einstein

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 4:48:42 PM

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For me, education ( and I am referring to actual schooling here ) does not hold much weight. I perfer that a partner be capable in taking care of themselves; in all ways. I have met men and women over the years, without college educations, and in some cases, without HS diploma's who are more intelligent, and more capable of taking care of themselves and their families than someone with a Doctorate.

In addition to this, I also look at those who have a good dose of common sense. Nothing turns me off more than a person who is incapable of handling simple day to day trials, no matter their education.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 5:25:30 PM

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I can't respect a partner, vanilla or sub, who doesn't have a big brain.
I tried once with gorgeous but stupid, and it was sorely lacking in so many aspects, including being embarrassed going out with friends because he couldn't follow a simple conversation. Never again!
But a guy with a big brain also has to be intellectually curious and socially sophisticated, since I'm also not interested in an asperger type. A good friend married one of those computer geeks who came to a formal dinner party, pulled out a magazine and contributed zippo to the entire evening.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 5:30:16 PM

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having a big iq doesn't give you life skills or common sence.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
Albert Einstein

meh, i don't agree with that. having a big iq doesn't always mean you're right either lol

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 8:05:59 PM

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I'm prone to "brain crushes" (I've had one on Ron for ages!)

I enjoy guys with a wide variety of interests, emotional maturity, and competence in their profession. I really would like the next guy to be a reader of some sort, since I read like hell.

I have a ton of interests so I can usually find some overlap with a fella. I'd like someone that I wouldn't mind taking to work parties, amongst friends, etc.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 8:28:18 PM

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Intelligence is sexy. Especially when people are intimidatingly intelligent without being condescending. I quite like being intimidated.

As a rule I only date people who are significantly more awesome than me (bearing in mind I'm pretty fucking awesome). There are many things that I value, in which being out-awesomed is attractive. Cleverness is definitely one of those things.

How to judge intelligence is a long and boring debate, especially as at uni level it all becomes very subjective and murky. It's wholly irrelevant anyway. Sexual chemistry doesn't ask to check your degree transcript or try to calculate your deviation from the average; it just judges you as 'phwoar' or 'meh'. Attractiveness of intelligence is based almost entirely on the impression you get from talking to the clever person, either in general discussion or hearing them geek out about something interesting. If I'm struggling to keep up with the conversation, I'll most likely be lusting over the brainy lady. (Assuming she's hot, I'm still shallow as a puddle).

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/1/2011 11:10:14 PM

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Intelligence is sexy. Especially when people are intimidatingly intelligent without being condescending. I quite like being intimidated.

There's a hotness factor indeed.

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As a rule I only date people who are significantly more awesome than me (bearing in mind I'm pretty fucking awesome). There are many things that I value, in which being out-awesomed is attractive. Cleverness is definitely one of those things.

This is rich! A quick mind that keeps pace with yours is bloody priceless. i'd probably swap a preference for it every time.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 1:35:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ohhh heart, I am so glad you found my thread and added to it. Reminding me of another quality that I adore...a creative, artistic mind and soul. A whole nother kind of smart.

Happy dance in the light of Lady Tiger's attention <3

There are all kinds of people, some are smart and some not so much. I think if we can be ourselves and find people to feel comfortable being ourselves with that is pretty cool. Dumber people wouldnt feel the need to sound smarter and smarter people wouldnt feel they need to dumb themselves down. People who love school can go get lots of it and folks who dont can grow their own way whatever, wherever.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 2:50:53 AM

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I guess it depends on your own definition of smart, but....most "smart" people I know give me a headache.

I want someone that can make me laugh more than anything. If someone is smarter than me, that is ok too. If they always feel the need to use big words and talk in a manner that most folks would sit with their head cocked to one side thinking wtf are they trying to say, no thanks.

Some of the smartest folks I have ever known had a hard time with reading and writing. In a place like this, I would imagine they would come off looking like quite the maroon. Ask them to fix a car or a water heater or install doors or windows and they would amaze you though.

I am a simple chickie, and I like other simple folks. I have no desires to go to the opera or to spend a lot of time expanding my mind. I just enjoy life and the simple things.

This is a lot like what I wish and think.
Make no mistake about it, I like smarts. I do not like smarts in a condescenging butthead though.
It's diffictult to define the right mix for me, but justanothersub does a good job of it. M

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 3:24:51 AM

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Coming back to this there's just one thing that bothers me.

Define intelligent or smart. Is having a college degree considered intelligent? You know, you can have a driving licence, but it doesn't necessarily make you a good driver, does it?

Let's turn this round for a minute. What is stupidity? Is not stupidity simply logic that you can't understand?

My point is, is that it's all subjective. Life experience makes it all subjective. And besides, other things are much more important.

Other things such as a sense of humour. Can you imagine going through life without laughing or finding anything funny? How about the ability to relate to someone? To feel? To care? Aren't these important?

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 4:46:32 AM

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I started to quote a bunch of articles about intelligence, but it was just too much. This is a topic that fascinates me. I remember watching Mike Meyers and saying, "that guy is a genius," and it really being about intelligence. Humor is a very intelligent pursuit - it's about finding connections and leading someone down a path with those connections and then twisting them. Commedians tend to be pretty dang brilliant.

And if they aren't word-smart, they often have the kinesthetic smarts.

Anyway, Stella, in answer to your question, one of the types of intelligence is in fact interpersonal intelligence - seeing the connections between people, being able to read the crowd kinds of things. And there is intraperesonal intelligence - understanding what's going on inside oneself. I expect a combination of these would be what you're asking about.

I don't think anyone is specifically denouncing humor or empathy. Generally speaking, people think of intelligence as book learning (and we know that's nonsense), but it does tend to be the stereotype. Research about intelligence has shown several types - noted previously by another poster. I remember learning those in uni. I saw Marcel Marceau right after we learned it, and was blown away by his brilliance despite his never uttering a single word.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 6:11:40 AM

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Thank you all so much for your contributions.

Sunny for your poem...so beautiful. Missokyst for reminding me how different we all are. The responsibilities of my home, really is to me, a comfort. Even when it is miserable pain in the butt. Heart for bringing a smile to my face always. Stella for reminding me that some of the wisest words I've ever heard have come from those under age 10 and that some of my most joyous moments have been with people others would see as mentally challenged. Just thank you to everyone for adding to my train of thought!

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 9:33:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Thank you all so much for your contributions.

Sunny for your poem...so beautiful. Missokyst for reminding me how different we all are. The responsibilities of my home, really is to me, a comfort. Even when it is miserable pain in the butt. Heart for bringing a smile to my face always. Stella for reminding me that some of the wisest words I've ever heard have come from those under age 10 and that some of my most joyous moments have been with people others would see as mentally challenged. Just thank you to everyone for adding to my train of thought!

Chooo chooooo

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/2/2011 10:24:01 PM

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The ability to think does and as you pointed out that does not always go hand in hand with IQ. The are plenty of Mensas who probably couldn't change a tire if their life depended on it.

And then there are some who can not only change a tire, but solve differential equations, grow killer Brandywine tomatoes, roof a house, extract the essential oil from fresh rosemary, make their own condiments, build a computer, speak more than one language, rebuild a toilet, lay tile, grow new perennials from cuttings, figure out what minerals are in soil, discuss the Natural Rights basis for the Declaration of Independence, name all the states in Germany or Canada, balance books using double-entry accounting, calculate the NPV of an annuity, wire a house, and still have the empathy to pick up stray dogs wandering around an interstate.

The more intelligence one has, the more likely it is that she/he is a polymath.

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/3/2011 11:29:43 AM

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How do you extract the oil out of fresh rosemary?

PS We dont have States in Canada. Unless you mean like Altered or Fine.

I am in a fine state!

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/3/2011 11:55:16 AM

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The ability to think does and as you pointed out that does not always go hand in hand with IQ. The are plenty of Mensas who probably couldn't change a tire if their life depended on it.

How would the likes of Stephen Hawking get around if he couldn't change a tire???

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/3/2011 12:14:20 PM

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How do you extract the oil out of fresh rosemary?

PS We dont have States in Canada. Unless you mean like Altered or Fine.

I am in a fine state!

BC is an altered state.

Yes, I know you have Provinces. Germany has Länder.

There are a couple ways to extract the EO from rosemary. This is the easiest:
http://www.aromatherapy-at-home.com/homemade-essential-oils.html
I happen to have a Soxhlet extractor at home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soxhlet_extractor
Yeah, how weird, huh? Also have an analytical balance, A Buchner funnel and vacuum flask (filtration), hotplate/magnetic stirrer, beakers, thermometers, ... a primitive under-equipped chem lab.

Now, you can also use a solvent like diethyl ether, benzene, or toluene. Ether has the lowest boiling point. Benzene is carcinogenic. Toluene has a boiling point higher than water. Ether is in engine starting fluid. It's also an anaesthetic with a very good safety profile, much better than chloroform, good for those kidnapping scenes.

I haven't tried it with rosemary, but I see no reason why you couldn't just chop up a bunch of rosemary and put in in a jar with some distilled water. I have made Attar of Roses that way. It will be a long process. It's basically the process of imbibition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbibition . I would use a narrow, tall vessel, and try and displace as much of the air as possible with something like a wine preservative or putting some wax on top, like you would preserving jams or jellies at home.

Alrighty then, anything else?

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RE: Beyond the 'Smart'. - 4/3/2011 8:06:10 PM

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My interest lies not so much in what someone has accomplished on their own.. but to what heights we can ascend together. Hell, if we fall into the muck, get dirty and messy and as lowly as possible but we're doing it together.. that's cool, too. :D

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