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The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 7:57:57 PM   
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http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/fbi-wants-public-help-solving-encrypted-notes?source=nww_rss


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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 8:18:05 PM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 8:23:38 PM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 8:25:29 PM   
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What is that condition called that compels the sufferer to constantly write? That's what it looks like.


dunno. according to the story, the guy had carried notes around like these all his life. Family didn't know how to read them either.


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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 8:34:55 PM   
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That's all I could get!

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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 9:03:13 PM   
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Break that code, you'll get a job. You probably won't be able to tell anybody you got it, but it will be a nice job.

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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 9:50:24 PM   
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Looks to me more like instructions on how to decode a message, which would seem to be forthcoming soon one would guess.

To Friends NE..twork...

worse inc.

parse en masse prehold

TFXLF TCXL [and] LBE (coding scheme, of many)

then we have a string, and again "prse" which probably means parse.

no PFSE. NLSRE - more decoding instructions.

TFRNE recurs, in a place a greeting wouldn't, so it probably is. So who is TFRNE ?

next three lines are further decoding instructions, or the whole of the message. Can't tell which yet.

the last line tells me that is is possible that the whole thing is reversed on purpose, people do have a hard time thinking backwards.
The reason it fucks up the suits is because they have no definite characters by which to go, even to reverse the whole message. This seems like one where the reader has learned to do so.

Why would I tell everyone this ? Simple. If they put it out there, it is not top secret and they are fishing. For what, who knows and who cares. But it si a pretty good code. Not the best, but it does look quite formidable.

But if you think for one millsecond that our illustrious and ever potent FBI or whoever would ever ask such a thing, either they are all fucking stoned or Obama really did effect some change. Coulda been Bush though. Coulda been FDR for all that matter.

The would ask us ? Bullshit.

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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/29/2011 9:51:00 PM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 6:39:59 AM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 7:59:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, and maybe that is intentional. The game works both ways. Send ten bullshit messages first, then the one that means something last.

So it could be a recipe for dog food. Ted said "Fred, send ten tents", Fred said "Ted, send ten cents". People really do think this shit up all day long. I'm surprised they cracked Enigma. That was over fifty years ago, think what they've come up with since then.

There is one thing I detect though, some of the characters look like they are from different alphabets, so it probably doesn't matter. One thing to look at there are the preceeding and proceeding characters. It's not conclusive though, because if it is actually not much more than character substitution, three letters could indicate one i.e. JMI is the letter "O" and GMO is the letter "G". The one rule is to break all the rules.

Which makes me think it may be my new calling :-)

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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 9:27:55 AM   
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"If they put it out there, it is not top secret and they are fishing."

"They would ask us ? Bullshit."


I'm glad you pointed that out. The whole time I was reading the story I had a distinct feeling something wasn't right here, some ulterior motive at play, etc. For one, if the man had been writing such things since childhood, why was no mention made of what had to have been at least several other samples, and if so eager to invite the public in on attempting to decipher the code, provide these two samples only and no others? And the reporter's question of "If the FBI can't decipher it, who can?" should instantly bring the response from many others: "I dunno, NSA? DIA? CIA? State Department? at least five other agencies with plenty of experts in these matters, all of whom do this stuff all day everyday?"  Just a thought.

The whole story sounds like a plant. I think you nailed as a fishing expedition. Whether to recruit some as yet undiscovered "Rain man"-type person out there, or someone who might have ties to some underground group or whatever, who knows.






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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 9:50:12 AM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 10:36:27 AM   
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You got it. Just a series of ham radio op's call letters, but written in a combo of Sanskrit and Egyptian hieroglyphs and random bar code translation.




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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 10:38:31 AM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 11:07:26 AM   
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Here is what I was thinking of.

I kind of like the idea that this was a fishing expedition, too. I'm with Termy that the FBI would NEVER just put that out asking for the public's help. Maybe they think the poor victim's killer would be compelled to take the bait they've offered.

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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 4:44:11 PM   
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RE: The FBI wants your help - 3/30/2011 5:44:45 PM   
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I got some of it; "Obama is the w-o-r-s-t president ever",....."Hillary Clinton is an advocate and ,...a-g-e-n-t for foreign countries.
That's all I could get!


The guy died in 1999, so I guess he travelled through time.
No wonder the FBI is so interested!

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