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expt -> Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 2:40:25 AM)

I have to say that when I lived in the inner city Chicago "trendy areas" as a younger guy, it absolutely stunk. I was good-looking, educated college grad, job, but meeting any ladies was impossible. And no, I didn't meet anyone at work or just bump into them. Many places in the USA, men and women are just not even getting around each other enough to do anything social together.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 2:44:08 AM)

Was there a question / discussion somewhere in there or did I miss the change of the forums into journals?




IronBear -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 3:31:29 AM)

 Migrating to Afgahanistan may help that. I understand the US Army has a very good immigration system




LaTigresse -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 3:31:29 AM)

There is a very good chance I am completely wrong but I am going to take a long shot here and say..........he is complaining about not having any social life.




MercTech -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 3:45:57 AM)

And I have fond memories of Chicago... and being propositioned almost every weekend.

But, did I miss a question somewhere in this?

Stefan




LoveSlider -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 4:08:54 AM)

You were probably drinking in the wrong pubs mate.

"Trendy" bars, forget it. The girls who frequent those places seem to be far too stuck-up and painted orange.* Go to a grungy rock bar and find yourself a nice rock chick, far more likely to be fun!


*Is it just England that's been taken in this ridiculous craze of young Ladies painting themselves in colours never before seen in nature? Some of them probably even look half-decent under all the make up. It's very sad.




GreedyTop -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 4:21:51 AM)

I've never failed to have fun in Chicago....




whiteslavebitch -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 4:39:11 AM)

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*Is it just England that's been taken in this ridiculous craze of young Ladies painting themselves in colours never before seen in nature? Some of them probably even look half-decent under all the make up. It's very sad.


I guess you've never seen "Jersey Shore". Those people are very orange from "tanning".




crazyml -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 4:39:22 AM)

Take an evening class in Spanish.

You get to chase tail and learn a new language.

win win.




CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 4:47:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: expt

I have to say that when I lived in the inner city Chicago "trendy areas" as a younger guy, it absolutely stunk. I was good-looking, educated college grad, job, but meeting any ladies was impossible. And no, I didn't meet anyone at work or just bump into them. Many places in the USA, men and women are just not even getting around each other enough to do anything social together.


Hello expt, and welcome to the message boards. 

I was never in Chicago as an adult and really don't know what that city is like.  When I was young [;)] and lived in California, guys talked to me and asked me out when I was doing my laundry in laundromats and while I was waiting at bus stops.  There were small public parks where people would take their lunch break, or just go to read a book or play chess or feed the pidgeons.  I used to feed pidgeons and somehow this gave an opening to guys who wanted to talk and ask me out.  Never liked the bar scenes...cig smoke, ugh.  Others who lived in apartments nearby were usually married or seeing someone already, and guys at work were a very bad idea (as I learned time and time again).  It seemed so easy then, in a big city with busses that went everywhere...to outdoor food stands that sold Chinese food or...mmm...carnitas.  I was approached often.  Guys started conversations on small things, like the fact that I eat Chinese food with chop sticks.  Aren't there places like these in Chicago?  Open and friendly guys caught my attention, and if they were interested but not pushy or abraisive, I gave them a chance.

In the two towns I have lived in since I moved back to WV, it's a different situation entirely.  The usual people look for people in bars, but others go to church (I know several people who regularly attend half a dozen, as the meetings are on different days of the week, at different times) simply to find their next boyfriend/lover.  There is almost nothing to DO...except drink, have sex, or read a book, lol.  We had a country dancing place called Boot Scootin, but it closed up years ago.  There are no lovely city parks with bike and jog paths, volleyball, etc.  Our museum closed up. 

California was more welcoming to start conversations with almost anyone, at least when I lived there.  Since there is nothing fun to do here that is affordable on my budget, I have become a homebody...if I am not out walking in a park on the Virginia side of our twin city during good weather, or out fishing, I enjoy gardening, knitting, sewing, watching DVDs, and playing my gaming systems, lol.  Yeah, I have an outdoor table and chairs and have invited many people over to play a board game, card game, or just picnic outside, but the majority of people will prefer their own home and playing some solitary game.

If it weren't for the internet, I would only very rarely meet up with men who live in my area.  Pssst...when I went to my high school reunion, I remembered why I didn't even try to go to dances after the first one...my class was from a generation of wall flowers.  Everyone stood around talking and looking uneasy and nobody danced.  Ten and then twenty years later, nothing had changed.  Not even the music... 

I have to admit that since I got Nintendo DS, I've pretty much stopped going to the park to play checkers or chess or something like that, and when I do go, I am always with my adult handicapped son. 

I miss parks with outdoor swimming pools, shuffleboard, tetherball, handball courts...  Watching guys playing soccer in normal street clothes on weekends used to be fun, so was watching people play volleyball (if I was't playing) or showing off on surf boards or boogie boards, lifting weights or skating (Venice beach).  I miss the easygoing atmosphere of Santa Monica Pier and all the games and arcade stuff.  A lot more guys took their dogs to parks to toss a frizbee or ball...these guys seemed safe to approach and easy to talk with...  I never get to see guys playing outside with their dogs.  It's been 22 years and I am still waiting, lol. 

As for myself, I have spring cleaning and uber yard work coming up...hats that need to be knitted (about 4 hours for each hat), quilts to finish, sewing to do, and in all of my spare time, there are DVDs of old tv series I loved and I am catching up on...and then...I am a gamer...I love playing Pokemon.  I don't know what everyone else is doing, but if some of the available and single male subs in my area would go bowling...be looking to play checkers or chess at the park, or would be fishing at the dam I like to go to...um...that would be nice.  If I ran into someone at the snack area at Sams, eating a slice of pizza and drinking tea or soda...who had his DS and was <insert huge gasp here> playing the game I love...  (So okay, that would have to be in an alternate universe.)

Yes, expt, I wish there were more healthy, smoke free, social activities available in my town. 

Btw, my sister in Texas told me several years ago that taking night classes at a college was a way people were choosing to meet other people socially.  She met her ex-husband while taking one night class, and met her current significant other through some classes that her church makes available to members. 

Good luck.




DarkSteven -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 5:01:35 AM)

You're 39 years old and living in Chicago, complaining about something that happened fifteen years ago when you were also living in Chicago?

FFS, grow up.  After that, try going to the clubs in Chicago.




Kana -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 5:41:29 AM)

Are ya kidding? You couldn't get any pootie in Chi-Town?
My gaaaaaawd man, that's just sad. Chicago was shooting fish in a barrel, hell, they even have a decent kink scene.




stellauk -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 5:50:06 AM)

First thing I'd say is society has changed because of the economy and different other social and cultural factors. The more competitive employment market means people have to work harder generally and have less time to socialize. From what I'm seeing unless you're established in your lifestyle and settled it's harder to even get a few friends together.

I think people are also generally a bit more wary of each other, but this is general. I'm sure there's people who can still go out to the right places, have a drink or two, meet someone and set up some rumpy pumpy.

Second thing is, what is 'trendy'? Upmarket? A scene type venue? Generally I find it's not the establishments themselves which are 'trendy' but it's the people who visit them decide what's trendy and what isn't, This changes.

Third thing is it's only really young people who are attractive, professional and successful who find dating easier, but this is arguable. It gets harder the older you get. I have a friend in her mid-30's and she's said that some people have described her as middle-aged. And I'm thinking 'What?'

I'd put this down to human nature. Getting your fingers burned a couple of times or even waking up with a hangover in some strange apartment and seeing the other person thinking 'What was I thinking?' does cause people to be more careful.

If you're relying on bars and other similar establishments for real time dating it can look pretty sparse, but most people 'on the pull' are actually out doing stuff with others, such as learning a new language, voluntary work, local politics, am dram, photography, and so on.

I haven't mentioned stuff like munches because I'm assuming you're trying them or were even referring to them, but if not I'd check them out.




porcelaine -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 6:30:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: expt

I have to say that when I lived in the inner city Chicago "trendy areas" as a younger guy, it absolutely stunk. I was good-looking, educated college grad, job, but meeting any ladies was impossible.


Greetings,

I'm sincerely wondering what trendy areas you're referring to. I've been a long time resident and in the last fifteen years the only area that truly popped was Lincoln Park. The bar scene has always been primarily situated in the Gold Coast with a few venues of note in River North. Wicker Park was up and coming and Bucktown wasn't on the map.

So that really narrows your options down to three and this is where your complaint falls apart. If you're referring to some pocket that people wanted to call trend, that's another thing altogether. Lincoln Park was primarily composed of young professionals and the Gold Coast it's more affluent set. And both generally attract people like yourself. So pardon me if I'm having a hard time comprehending your issue. Perhaps you can expound.

Namaste,

~porcelaine




sunshinemiss -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 8:08:23 AM)

Sunny
Quote of the day
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crazyml
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Take an evening class in Spanish.
You get to chase tail and learn a new language.
win win.




Phoenixpower -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 8:24:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

And I have fond memories of Chicago... and being propositioned almost every weekend.

But, did I miss a question somewhere in this?

Stefan


I just misread propositioned as imprisoned [8|]




windchymes -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 9:06:30 AM)

I blame cell phones. Put the fuckers down for an hour and look around. People!!!!! [:-]




sexyred1 -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 10:04:47 AM)

I thought the OP would be much older than 39 when I read this.

First off, the title of the thread is misleading; I thought he was going to give us a description of a nightmarish encounter in real life of someone he met online....

Second, I get what is really being said though. We are in a truly dysfunctional society. People are too busy to talk to each other live, they rely on the internet, and electronic devices.

In NYC and NJ, literally everyone is walking around, eating at restaurants, in clubs, in stores, everywhere, staring down at a smartphone.

In addition, the vastness and ease of online hooking up has overshadowed real life encounters.

All the other advice is good, keep trying, get yourself out there and just live your life with what you enjoy. You may or may not meet anyone, but at least you are living for yourself.




BurntKitty -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 10:09:47 AM)

I second the great kink scene in Chi-Town. There's munches and groups and fun peeps, oh my.....




kalikshama -> RE: Real life 'hookups' WORSE than online? (3/11/2011 10:23:39 AM)

When I lived at an ashram I hooked up all the time. Location, location, location.




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