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how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 3:33:55 AM   
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Hey everyone

I currently in a position where I can not have a slave in real time. So I have trieded over and over to find a descent slave online, and failed. I understand that most slaves doesn't consider online slacery as an accepted relationship and thats find. But there has to some slaves in a the sane cercumstances as me... So any have any ideas to how such a relationship should be like. I would like to give her task for me to complete, set rules for her to follow and have some control over the rest of her action

Would like to know what you guys and girls think abour what it should be like. Looking forward to your insight on this.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 4:11:13 AM   
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I don't consider online being any kind of relationship (well, maybe it is , but not for me)..

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 7:56:22 AM   
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I suppose you can just switch it off if you want

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 9:31:42 AM   
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switch what off?

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 9:43:26 AM   
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Devileyed, I'm having a hard time with this. To me, an M/s relationship is all about power and control. Doing it online mitigates those factors a lot. I assume that many women interested in being an online slave would choose that option because they're married, which would further reduce your control.

The relationship will look like whatever the two of you agree upon.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 10:15:39 AM   
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yes i agree there is a servere lack of physical domination... Nothing I can do about that. Actually the women that have shown intrrest is those who are not commited to the lifestyle and thats the problem, their fake. The select few who are commited go off to find real masters and I cant blame them. The thing about online domination is that the slave should accept the cercumstance and be extremely dedicated to make it work. Thats hard to find...

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 10:48:14 AM   
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Welcome to the boards.  You're going to have a hard time finding many females in being online only.  The joy of being a submissive/slave is in having the satisfaction of real life inter-action.  I know I require the touch of a Dominant, being able to serve him personally, cook his meals and look after him in general.  Online just doesn't do that for me, never has, doesn't, never will.

All I can say is good luck in your search. 


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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 12:15:36 PM   
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quote:

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I suppose you can just switch it off if you want

Brit grit


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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 12:34:39 PM   
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Well fuck me it is the Frog Mime Artist speaking to us all..Or is it Jason????? 

Spell checks are you best friend before you try an on line relationship. Been there! Done that; and had many a hair tearing moment as well as many hysterical ones when an online slave followed my misspelled words literally... Unless you have her house covered with CC(BDSM)TV and mics, what you want is probably the most frustrating and difficult form of domination and relationship.. never again will I have an online relationship.. Mine lasted for 2 years before the bitch got her ass over from NZ and I collared her for real.. Even then I never had the back up of knowing her in life and seeing her body language as she was lying her heart out to me on line.. When I found out the truth, her collar came off that fast a scared rabbit couldn't have shit faster. It would be a damned side easier to wank off or watch porn.. If you can't have a slave in real life, how can you dominate couples as you state on your profile? On line??? That would make for better comedy than Benny Hill. 

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 12:39:44 PM   
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I currently in a position where I can not have a slave in real time. So I have trieded over and over to find a descent slave online, and failed.
Depends on what you mean by "decent". In general, my experience with the online crowd is that it is possible to find people who are genuinely exploring their submissive side. They are going to have VERY limited views on what "total" means and are also going to be driven to overstate their own "totality".... essentially living a fantasy. But, if you can weed through all that, it's possible depending on what you're looking for.

I understand that most slaves doesn't consider online slacery as an accepted relationship and thats find.
Don't worry, most slaves don't consider my marriage acceptable either.


But there has to some slaves in a the sane cercumstances as me...
There are... but you BOTH need to be very clear on what, exactly, those circumstances are.

So any have any ideas to how such a relationship should be like. I would like to give her task for me to complete, set rules for her to follow and have some control over the rest of her action
I never did this. I had slaves online at various times, but I never commanded their real life. I found the risks of doing so to be ridiculous. At most and very tentatively I would give some guidance as to their real life events when I felt it was really important. I certainly never did the "You're not to wear panties today" thing. Then again, I generally don't trivialize my authority with such commands even with Carol.

Would like to know what you guys and girls think abour what it should be like. Looking forward to your insight on this.
It should look like whatever you want it to. Doing what you're suggesting, I fully expect you're going to get hurt and hurt at least one other person. Then, perhaps, you'll learn... or not. An awful lot never did.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 1:25:51 PM   
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I don't have any issue with this concept, not at all.

Why not? Okay, so where does the dynamic in any relationship really exist? Is it not in the mind and heart of two people who are involved in a relationship?

I've checked, I don't run on Duracell batteries, I'm not affected by infrared signals or remote control devices. I don't go out of range when I'm 500 miles further down the road, I'm not a cellphone, I'm a human being, I have control of my mind, I assume everybody else does too.

If I'm in a relationship with someone I'm in a relationship with them period. Doesn't matter whether I'm with them physically in a room, asleep in another room, in another city, state or country, that relationship exists for as long as it exists as a concept in my mind and that of the other person.

The fact that I'm sitting by one computer and the other person is also by a computer doesn't make a difference, because it's just a means of communication, the same as a telephone line, writing someone a letter (does anybody still write letters to anyone else?) or meeting in the same place - call it dating if you like - none of these define the relationship. The relationship is defined by the two people involved, and it exists in their minds and hearts.

But here you meet two snags. The first is, is that you can't start a dynamic with just anybody. It needs to be someone you have a connection with, you accept as they accept you, someone you can communicate with, and someone you can trust, and it takes time to get to know someone to reach that stage.

There's a reason for this which I will come back to later if I may. It's tied to the second snag. I hope I'm not offending anyone here, but most people have difficulties with any sort of sustained communication online. The vast majority of people come here and things start online, and they hope that what starts online proceeds within a reasonable time frame to offline and real time.

It's really difficult to keep up the momentum and motivation in an online relationship for any sustained period of time, especially if there's no way of knowing how long it's going to last, whether it's ever going to get to offline or not, or anything with an unclear purpose or objective.

Human nature kicks in, we associate relationships with some degree of intimacy, and it is really difficult to share any sort of meaningful intimacy with someone online. In fact, I'd even suggest that it's easier to find opportunities for emotional and physical intimacy in a busy street or shopping mall, simply because you you are both in the same place. By intimacy here I mean the looks, the facial expressions, the little symbolic gestures, the squeeze of the hand, the holding of hands, the hugs, the kisses, the touches, the reactions and interactions which are non-verbal.

Sure, you can get intimate if you have speakers, mike, webcam and have Skype and IM installed, but it's not the same as being there together in the same place. You don't get to share in all those warm fuzzies that a typical relationship gives you. You have to use your imagination.

Furthermore most D/s dynamics, including service based ones, involve a certain degree of basic human intimacy. Even if you're just a menial domestic slave you are intimate with your Dominants, you are in their home, the most intimate, private place in their lives, you have access to their closets, cupboards, drawers, it's intimate.

Now if you were to take all the activities of WIITWD and write them down into two lists, one not requiring much intimacy, the second activities which require intimacy - which one would be longer? Have you ever tried to have a BDSM scene with yourself? Successfully?

So in theory yes, it is possible, I have no problems with it as a concept, but there's a lot of pros and cons and for most people and their relationship needs the cons by far outweigh the cons.

And while we're on the subject [soapbox] if you're thinking of an international LDR you need to multiply the time frames, costs, hassles and problems at least threefold. If you're an American crossing the Atlantic and coming to the UK and Europe is nothing like crossing two or three state lines. It's much more complicated. It's also not worth trying for such a relationship unless you are fully prepared to take the consequences and treat the other person as a priority, not an option. It cuts both ways of course, but it's a bit more than just a $1,000 round trip flight. [/soapbox]

I'm personally open to online as a start but I expect some real time objective and this is to be discussed in realistic terms at the start of the relationship. I've gone down this route a few times and it's worked out a couple of times but in the majority of cases it hasn't. I just got my fingers burned once too often and while in principle I'm open to it, I'm not going to shed any tears if it falls apart in the initial stages.

But a relationship that is purely online? Hmm, not for me, but you never know. There might be someone out there.

And does it have to be M/s? I admit I find this to be a tad unrealistic, given that it's hard to control anyone online (especially when you don't have the warm fuzzies or riding crop to dangle in front of them).

Have you thought about mentoring?

It's not for me but I accept that it's what's right for you. To me if you can conceive it, then it's possible... in theory. But as with everything else, it's the practice...

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 1:44:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Well fuck me it is the Frog Mime Artist speaking to us all..Or is it Jason????? 

Spell checks are you best friend before you try an on line relationship. Been there! Done that; and had many a hair tearing moment as well as many hysterical ones when an online slave followed my misspelled words literally... Unless you have her house covered with CC(BDSM)TV and mics, what you want is probably the most frustrating and difficult form of domination and relationship.. never again will I have an online relationship.. Mine lasted for 2 years before the bitch got her ass over from NZ and I collared her for real.. Even then I never had the back up of knowing her in life and seeing her body language as she was lying her heart out to me on line.. When I found out the truth, her collar came off that fast a scared rabbit couldn't have shit faster. It would be a damned side easier to wank off or watch porn.. If you can't have a slave in real life, how can you dominate couples as you state on your profile? On line??? That would make for better comedy than Benny Hill. 

How fast can a scared rabbit shit online?


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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 1:47:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Devileyed


Would like to know what you guys and girls think abour what it should be like. Looking forward to your insight on this.

Regards Devileyed


I'm not an advocate of *should* when it comes to relationships, but if I were, I'd say that if you are in an online relationship it *should* make you happy or at least bring you some sort of contentment more often than not. It *should* be fun.. for all the parties involved. It *should* enhance your life rather than detract from it or cause an obsession that precludes day to day living without upsetting apple carts too often .. and it should be something you want to do rather than something for which you are settling. Given you would rather be in a relationship off-line, it sounds like something for which you will settle.. and those sorts of settlements rarely work in the long term.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 2:53:40 PM   
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Blink and you have a pile of bunny shit.. 

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 3:12:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Blink and you have a pile of bunny shit.. 

aww pink and smells like cornflakes...but the that's the problem with online

......all shit smells the same



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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/7/2011 3:30:26 PM   
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I thought the smell was popcorn.....LOL


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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/8/2011 5:28:23 AM   
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Re OP:
Learn to spell/type, webcams are non-optional for both of you, and mics are extremely useful too, ensure you can chat (for a fair amount of time) at least 4 times a week, honesty is very important, though it's more likely you'll be the victim of dis than the perpertrator. Work out whether you actually want a 'relationship' or just kinky cam2cam, and find out (tactfully ffs) which they're after. Don't overdo it with the rules/tasks, either in intensity, but more importantly perhaps in time taken. If the sub has two hours of tasks to carry out every day and you only chat 10 hours a week, it ain't gonna work. Communication is important and difficult, extra care needs to be taken to make sure they're happy with telling you when they don't like or are bored with something.....get them to use a mic if they have one and under no circumstances allow no visual. If they're not okay with you seeing them having a 'bad hair day' or whatever, they shouldn't be doing this with you. Find out where it's going, are ya gonna get to know each other and possibly meet up if it works out, or are ya just breaking her in in a non-threatening environment before she starts going to clubs on her continent. Don't mislead her about what you're looking for, ideally don't mislead her about anything....but definitely don't lead her on when you're not ever looking for real time meets.

Ultimately how it should work depends on a combination of what's good for you and what's good for them.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/10/2011 2:37:18 PM   
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Hi.

I train and own online slaves and have no problems with it. The slave does the task I command of it and reports to me when it's done so I can review it's work and command it more. Not everyone can be a slave realtime and every online slave has it's own reason why online works better for it. I find it works great for me. I have slave online and realtime slaves in person too. It's the willingness and effort that makes it work.

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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/11/2011 5:52:05 AM   
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So any have any ideas to how such a relationship should be like.


Yep, talk to her till you both are comfortable, then say, "Hey, how bout a cuppa at the local pub followed by a harsh strapping and a mounting that'll leave your vulva throbbing for weeks?"

AFAIC, that's all on-line is good for.


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RE: how an online relationship should work? - 3/11/2011 6:02:32 AM   
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They're fake because they won't accept the fact that this doesn't work for them? Or are you calling them fake because they don't click with you?

Either way, that's rude. Don't do it. They're as real as you are. And since you don't even know how this should work, perhaps they get to call you fake.

Accept the fact that the only women who will show any interest are those who either have no experience and wish to experiment online or those who are married and can't follow your rules because of their real life.

What it comes down to is that online turns into just cybersex, saying what you would do to her and her telling you how she thinks she would respond.


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