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ORIGINAL: xBullx
Do you recall any events prior too or acknowledge any of the errors committed since the Bush administration or is he the one true satan in your life.
Priot to George W. Bush?
We the country elected many useless Republicans to office. We supported Saddam Hussien and many other dictators who later proved to be problems for the country. We could have handled Waco, TX and Ruby Ridge alot better. And we shouldn't have impeached Clinton, given the Speaker of the House was largely doing the same thing, and not being held as accountable. And if you want REALLY ancient US History: better defination of the 2nd Amendment.
Post Bush?
We elected many useless Republicans to office. We allowed ourselves to think Republicans really cared about the majority of Americans. That we should have told the Republicans to 'go to hell' on Health Care and not opted to try being bipartisan with them.
Does that satify you?
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
But I will give it to you that perhaps capitalism is to easily corrupted. I will also acknowledge there is most likely no perfect system, but I believe that our fore-fathers sought a free market system due to the history they were able to study from. I think all systems are easily corrupted if we the people neglect our duties. And I'm certainly not promoting an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" position". I'm conservative on a good many things, but I am not a righty. I tend to piss them folks off with the same degree of ability that I do the lefties, and I am not talking about here in the safety of cyberville.
I am for 'Regulated Capitalism'. Capitalism can be a very useful tool both on an individual and a 'macro' level. When there are proper rules of doing business, people find that the economy is stable and good for many years at a time, with a year or two 'correction'. Having investigators or regulators, keeping an eye on people, helps keep things in line and people acountable to their actions. Of course, this implies Congress keeps tight oversight of those investigators. And the People, keep tight oversight of Congress. When the People fail to do their part, they allow Congress to slack off.
During the Bush Administration years, people's attention was shifted from America to Iraq and Afghanistan. If you asked the typical person on the street to list the top five Bush domestic policies of his eight years, they'd get two at best. The moment the people took their 'eye off the ball' as far as the domestic economy was concern, things started to break down. We failed to correct them, and simply 'slacked off' each year, thus, allowing the problems to grow and mutiply. This started back in 2000 and was headed towards Depression aroudn the mid point of 2007.
The Recovery and Reinvestment Act was brought into play, to prevent the country from sinking into a Depression. So far, it looks like it has worked to America's benefit. Was it suppose to fix all the economic problems for the last eight years? No, as that was not the scope of the bill's purpose.
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
I love this country and am fond of the vast majority of the people I have met, but to pick a singular fault to focus most of your energies on while a vast wilderness of inequities exist is rather narrow-minded and will have you off target more often than not.
I in a manner must narrow the focus to a tiny field of concepts. As I find most conservatives have sadly de-evolved ever since about the mid-point of the Clinton's first term of office. I would rather we handle the problems our country has, as they are numerous. Problem is, it requires people to understand some pretty advance concepts in order to understand the question (as you have to have a question, to answer the problem). Health Care Reform, was a very good example of how well conservatives understood the question. Financial Reform, was another good example of how badly conservatives have failed to understand the economic lessons for the last few years. Finally, the Immigration Reform presents, yet another 'indepth' knowledge that conservatives fail to understand. Each one, is a series of very complex problems that need solutions. Those solutions are not easy or simple. If they were, do you really think they'd STILL be a problem?
I love my country very much. It really annoys me that a large segment of the voting population keeps voting for the likes of 'Sarah Palin-wannabes' (i.e. Rep. Michelle Bachmann). When I learned that there were 30 million Americans without health care, and that the reason for it, was a 'pre existing condition' I was stunned. A whole group of people, whom most likely pay taxes, work very hard, and generally keep out of trouble; have no chance in Heaven or Hell, of aquiring proper and good health coverage (instead using ER's as regular doctor's visits). Likewise, the manner in which Goldman Sachs was able to profit off lying to thousands of investors over the futures housing market scandal; was compounded by the complete ignorance of conservatives, whom didn't understand what the problem/issue was.
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My position is that the left or the right have only imaginary power at any given time. Our system is simply an illusion designed to distract us from the puppetmaster(s).
Your welcome to your opinion. I believe it is foolish and ignorant based. That you are in the 'I give up' crowd. Not because you tried and gave up. But because you convinced yourself not to even try before starting by ignoring the awful realities this country has to face, for the fantasy land were everything is wonderful. Until you and many others, are willing to deal with the harsh realities this country faces, NOTHING will get accomplished, and many more cogs in the machine will break down.
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