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food fabrication machines that "print out" n... - 1/26/2011 6:33:02 AM

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food fabrication machines that "print out" near-instant foods much like an inkjet printer (but using food pastes instead of ink). Is this a good thing? Or will it dehumanize our food and further separate us from real nourishment? Today I take a hard look at this emerging technology and how it might alter the future of food:
http://www.naturalnews.com/031114_food_fabrication_machine.html

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 6:43:33 AM

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No. Way. It's only good for semiliquid and liquid ingredients, it'd be expensive as all get out, and take up a chunk of room in a kitchen. I wouldn't be surprised to see this coming to fast food restuarants, but not personal kitchens.

Note that the author implied that the up front cost would be so much that it would have to be subsidized by jacking up the costs of the replacement food syringes. Then the food syringes would be competing on cost with the food itself, and losing. Yuppie appliances are infamous for sitting unused in a corner of the kitchen - no way would a company make a bet on sustained use like the author suggests.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 6:51:19 AM

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Yet- did Granny ever imagine a microwave oven, cell phones, and lap top computers?

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 6:55:51 AM

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hunky, it's not a question of imagining it. It's a question of practicality.

1. The utility of having a machine to carefully squirt out foods instead of squeezing it out myself is not big.
2. The manufacturer making a huge outlay and hoping to recover it over time doesn't work for something that will likely be unused.

It's a lot of money and space for something with limited value.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 10:12:21 AM

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The article shows a complete lack of knowledge of how inkjet printers work, as well as a misunderstanding of fast-prototyping technologies.

That being said, such a device would be of severely limited use in a consumer kitchen. I could see it being used in, say, bakeries. It could be used to make those fancy cake decorations.

I disagree with DarkSteven's interpretation of why. I'm sure consumer level devices will be made available. Perhaps not widespread usage, but I bet a lot of them will be sold. Just because it's impractical does not mean people won't buy them. Look at all those late night infomercials - they stay on the air because someone is buying those products. Only after they open the box and try to use the product do they realize it's a piece of junk.

Some people will buy anything.

I can't imagine that the food will have any desirable texture, at least not in the foreseeable future. While many foods start off with what could be arguably called a paste, such as sausages, hamburgers, pasta, bread, cheese, etc. - they mostly require molds or forms and (quite often) a large amount of pressure to force them into shape. Also, being a paste or liquid, Brownian motion alone will cause the ingredients to meld in an undesirable manner.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 10:48:46 AM

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I am waiting for food replicators. Like in the Star Trek universe.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 10:51:22 AM

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I am waiting for food replicators. Like in the Star Trek universe.

Just keep the tribbles out of 'em!

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 11:20:42 AM

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margarine is one chemical away from plastic.

So we are much closer to eating plastic then anyone thinks.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19723152/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 6:06:56 PM

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What possible link is there between your remark and that article? It talks about adulteration of food with cardboard, in China.

As for your margarine remark, you mean that they are processed using a solvent, of which very little (10 ppm) is left in the product (and it's not benzene). Lots of conflated data out there. Or what you mean is "molecule", maybe "element" since there are very, very many plastic/petroleum products. Which were you thinking of?

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 8:28:33 PM

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What possible link is there between your remark and that article? It talks about adulteration of food with cardboard, in China.

As for your margarine remark, you mean that they are processed using a solvent, of which very little (10 ppm) is left in the product (and it's not benzene). Lots of conflated data out there. Or what you mean is "molecule", maybe "element" since there are very, very many plastic/petroleum products. Which were you thinking of?

The goal is to have people eat bugs- and not meat.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 9:26:04 PM

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/26/2011 9:43:12 PM

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Awwww! C'mon Arpig! Every bulletin board needs one.

Think of how many smiles his somehat less than erudite contributions raise!

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 12:13:52 AM

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bah - they're WAY behind the 8 ball and I doubt they'll ever catch up to Soylent Green

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 12:18:23 AM

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Awwww! C'mon Arpig! Every bulletin board needs one.

Think of how many smiles his somehat less than erudite contributions raise!

The smiles wear thin after a few years, he's mostly just tiresome nowadays.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 3:17:16 AM

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Now this is really rich :

"The ultimately geek goal for these fabrication devices, by the way, is to build a device that can replicate itself. If a Thing-O-Matic could print out another Thing-O-Matic and assemble it, then runaway replication could give rise to a race of self-replicating machines that would one day declare war on the human race and develop a popular series of sci-fi movies starring Arnold Schwarzeneger "
Anyway, look at a cheap frozen pizza, it pretty much is printed. Also there is a place in town here where you can take a photo in and have it printed on top of a cake, like the picture of someone on their birthday cake, or anything you want. I doubt I would eat anything made by one of those newfangled gadgets. I'm already a big pain in the ass to go food shopping with, as I read the ingredients on almost everything, unless I already know what's in it. And I'd like to see the thing print a chicken thigh, a burger or a salad. I can't even imagine it printing a pizza that I would eat even at gunpooint. But what they have in mind no doubt is that $7,500/gal. inkjet ink. I wouldn't take an inkjet printer for free. The theory is to create a need and then fill it. The story begins with vinyl and record players, cassettes and cassette decks (8 tracks for us older folk) and is very apparent in the obvious collusion between computer hardware and software manufacturers. This new machine isn't anywhere near in my future. For one I just don't have the room for another gadget in the kitchen. My pantry is already full of things that just don't fit, like the breadmaker and the meat slicer. I'd have to build an addition to the house. Not that I can't, but it's cold out there. Even when it's warm I am lazy - but not lazy enough to buy a food printer. T^T

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 3:43:31 AM

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Awwww! C'mon Arpig! Every bulletin board needs one.

Think of how many smiles his somehat less than erudite contributions raise!
The smiles wear thin after a few years, he's mostly just tiresome nowadays.

Perhaps we could think about collaborating on a brain fabrication machine to address his needs in this area?

The programming could be tricky tho .......

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 4:55:09 AM

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If you just programmed it to blather inanely about whatever nonsense was on Prison Planet last, who would notice that he'd had his brain replaced?

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 6:22:58 AM

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Awwww! C'mon Arpig! Every bulletin board needs one.

Think of how many smiles his somehat less than erudite contributions raise!
The smiles wear thin after a few years, he's mostly just tiresome nowadays.

You will feel better if You take yourself to Disneyland.

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 10:51:21 AM

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See what I mean...nonsense disguised as wit

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RE: food fabrication machines that "print out&quo... - 1/27/2011 12:07:52 PM

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Fine. None for you then.

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