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California - 1/3/2011 4:54:58 PM   
defiantbadgirl


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Status: offline 		When people think of California, they think palm trees, warm weather, and occasional earthquakes. Recently, they've had to contend with flooding, mudslides, and now snow. Many people were forced to evacuate their homes just in time for the holidays. Now cars are backed up for miles due to roads closing. What a horrible way to spend the holidays and start the new year. My heart goes out to them.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 6:04:13 PM   
flcouple2009


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Status: offline 		Who knew they have mudslides or flooding?  They only happen every year.

Nobody gets off free.  Every geographic area has its problems with nature.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 6:12:29 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		When my brother moved to the L A area, he was thinking about putting an offer on a home. By the time he decided to do so, a week after viewing it, it had been destroyed in a mudslide.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 6:21:48 PM   
omkfY


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

When people think of south western California, they think palm trees, warm weather, and occasional earthquakes. Recently, they've had to contend with flooding, mudslides, and now snow. Many people were forced to evacuate their homes just in time for the holidays. Now cars are backed up for miles due to roads closing. What a horrible way to spend the holidays and start the new year. My heart goes out to them.



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RE: California - 1/3/2011 7:17:27 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		This is pretty typical, Defia. The Tejon (I-5) and Cajon (I-15) passes usually get screwed up by snow in the winter. The timing sucked for people who didn't check the weather forecast, and it made for good news copy.

It seems to me we are actually losing a lot fewer homes to land/mudslides than we were a couple decades ago because of an improved understanding of how to work with the terrain when they turn hills into housing tracts. Some places though, are just tragedies waiting to happen. There is a particular hill in Ventura (a hippified coastal community, north of LA) that is going to collapse one of these days, and probably kill people when it destroys the streets of older homes that are built right up to the base of it. That will make the national news too, I'm sure.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 7:24:07 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		Ha, I live in the desert, so I don't even halfta worry bout mudslides too often...but unfortunately my part of cali is probably one of the only regions in California to have tornadoes(saw a horizontal one take out a roof a few years ago)

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 7:33:57 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		I had to go check if we were neighbors, Pyro, because we get those CA brand tornados here, too. And just try digging through the caliche to build a storm cellar.

Of course, one of ours would just wet itself and collapse, in comparison to what goes wandering across the midwest.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 7:43:19 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		God I hate caliche... when I was doing construction, we ran into a bad batch of it on one of our sites. we had to dig post hole bout eight feet down but ran into the shit only a foot or so down, tried a rock auger, tried pick axe,tried pile driver,tried water(to freeze and crack it),even tried explosives, but nothing got through that shit. ended up just diggin the hole wider(above the caliche) and filling it with concrete.



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RE: California - 1/3/2011 7:57:02 PM   
NocturnalStalker


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Status: offline 		...Wait...

California isn't a gigantic game of Candyland like Katy Perry told me?

Why...why would she lie?


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RE: California - 1/3/2011 8:06:38 PM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		I've gotten through it with the asphalt blade on a 90 pound jackhammer. Try hammering some rebar spikes down into it, if you are going with extra concrete in a shallow hole, along with a couple pieces running crosswise through the bottom of your post. We got the new divider fence built across my Dad's backyard, but my littlest brother learned some new words while it was getting done.

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 8:10:28 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		Yeah, i've used a jack on that shit before, but it seems not all caliche is equal. Some I've cut through with just a regular pick axe, but the stuff I was referring to was a fucking nightmare


We used explosives




EXPLOSIVES!



didn't do shit

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 8:52:09 PM   
TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown

EXPLOSIVES!



didn't do shit



Then you weren't using enough of them

I know what you mean about the nightmare patches. I've seen the steel teeth on an excavator bucket snapped in two from a bad bite.



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RE: California - 1/3/2011 9:02:42 PM   
rosanegra


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Status: offline 		I live in the Mojave Desert portion of SoCal too. We just moved down here from Fairbanks, Alaska. I thought I had escaped the snow. Last night, that assumption was proven entirely false.. 140 degrees in the summer.. below freezing during these cold winter nights. Fuck me..

I meant that literally, I need it for the body warmth! 

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 9:06:59 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		well...trust a fire enthusiast to keep you warm wink wink

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 9:35:26 PM   
rosanegra


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Status: offline 		Haha.. I used to be a firefighter. I know how to build a good one myself :P 

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 9:39:24 PM   
PyrotheClown


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Status: offline 		sooo many jokes to be made....sooo little time lol

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RE: California - 1/3/2011 10:37:32 PM   
rosanegra


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Status: offline 		You have all the time in the world. It is your choice in how to use it that makes it seem scant.

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RE: California - 1/4/2011 7:42:24 AM   
AlwaysLisa


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Status: offline 		Native Californian here...for 40 years.  

Nothing that is happening is new.   People shouldn't build homes on unstable land, you would think after all the sliding earth, it would sink in.  If not for the sake of mudslides, then earthquakes. 

Fires, followed by mudslides is a constant source of problems in So Cal.   I still would take that possibility, over the yearly snowfall on the East coast, or hurricanes in Florida.  It's the price you pay for living in paradise :)  

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RE: California - 1/4/2011 8:09:21 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Yeah, well, 'paradise' is pretty damn cold this morning.  LOL.

According to the forecast, we're supposed to start drying out now. 


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RE: California - 1/4/2011 11:58:14 AM   
Hillwilliam


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Status: offline 		Mountains of TN.

Mudslides, Nope

Hurricanes. Nope

Floods. As long as you live more than 100 meters from the river. Nope

Tornadoes. Nope

Blizzards. Nope

Earthquakes. Nope


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