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LadyConstanze -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 9:28:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub People speak well of the dead usually. Glowingly most times, particularly those who died tragically. Which the person gets to enjoy under their new name. Right, I am outing myself as an absolute egomaniac now, so there are a bunch of people in the corner of my pub talking about me in glowing tones, I don't want them to think I am dead, I want to go over and bask in it and have them buy me a drink as I am so wonderful. Even if you'd camouflage me as somebody else, I'd want to say "Hello, it's me" and not pretend I'm dead (and I have absolutely no plans to snuff it in the forseeable future)

sunshinemiss -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 9:33:57 PM)
How am I having a brain fart about you offering to send me tea? DOH! I just ran out of Decaf Earl Grey last night... and I wonder why I was up till 2 a.m. with all that caffeine in me!!!

LadyConstanze -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 9:42:18 PM)
Btw I advocate that people doing that shit (faking their dead and all that) are having their head pulled under water or any other non-consensual torture... I'm possibly obsession over this too much, but I'm still trying to make sense of it, so alright, they get attention even if they can't claim the attention themselves and need to pretend to be somebody else, so they are burning their bridges and for a short while it's lots of mourning which they equate as attention... (still a bit stupid but I get the drift) but then, they have faked their death, gotten all the attention and people will just move on, I mean how long will an online community mourn? Not being cynical but they get on with stuff again, right? So they burned their bridges, the friendships they have made are gone (can't be friends with a dead person), they can't resurrect themselves as even the most stupid person would figure out something is wrong, they lost that community and their other fake person can't pretend to snuff it too because people dying in a row is also a bit unlikely. The article said something bout them being years at it, and it will take a while to become part of a community, if they are such attention sluts, they aren't get much out for the effort they have put in, you know fake persona, avoiding to meet somebody (they could check upon them and if they are still alive) etc. Even in online communities people exchange phone numbers... It seems to be very time consuming...

LadyConstanze -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 9:45:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss How am I having a brain fart about you offering to send me tea? DOH! I just ran out of Decaf Earl Grey last night... and I wonder why I was up till 2 a.m. with all that caffeine in me!!! PM me an address and which brands you like and I send them, but it will be after Xmas as the lines in the post offices are killer at the moment, oh and I promise I won't come and kill you...

AquaticSub -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 10:01:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub People speak well of the dead usually. Glowingly most times, particularly those who died tragically. Which the person gets to enjoy under their new name. Right, I am outing myself as an absolute egomaniac now, so there are a bunch of people in the corner of my pub talking about me in glowing tones, I don't want them to think I am dead, I want to go over and bask in it and have them buy me a drink as I am so wonderful. Even if you'd camouflage me as somebody else, I'd want to say "Hello, it's me" and not pretend I'm dead (and I have absolutely no plans to snuff it in the forseeable future) There are ways to bask in it without revealing you who are. "Tell me more about this person, what were they like? It's so terrible that they died and I never got to meet them!" Then they get people talking about the first persona while telling them how great their current persona is, how much the first persona would have liked them, etc. I can honestly see how it would be an ego trip. Plus it wouldn't LadyConstanze who was dead. It would be an alter ego, a created persona.

AquaticSub -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 10:05:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Not being cynical but they get on with stuff again, right? So they burned their bridges, the friendships they have made are gone (can't be friends with a dead person), they can't resurrect themselves as even the most stupid person would figure out something is wrong, they lost that community and their other fake person can't pretend to snuff it too because people dying in a row is also a bit unlikely. The article said something bout them being years at it, and it will take a while to become part of a community, if they are such attention sluts, they aren't get much out for the effort they have put in, you know fake persona, avoiding to meet somebody (they could check upon them and if they are still alive) etc. Even in online communities people exchange phone numbers... It seems to be very time consuming... Yeah... it probably is. But you have to understand that these people are not sane. This is their thrill. And if they are creating personalities, people who aren't really them, then they can kill off any nickname without any issues. And I honestly don't think it would be that hard. Have some on LiveJournal, have some on Fetlife, have some on here, have some on Alt, have some on any other forum that piques a person's interest. Pipe-smoking, pets, needlework, woodworking etc. Could have hundreds of names in different places. The stories probably wouldn't be straight all the time but people calling them out on their shit is even more attention!

tazzygirl -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/14/2010 10:08:12 PM)
Lordy... my ex was a master (literally) at this kind of stuff. he once had a lawyer (himself really, just said he was a lawyer) come on line to tell all his friends that he had died. then, a week later, he reappeared, claiming to have no knowledge of who that lawyer was. it became a running joke, to be honest... lol

LadyConstanze -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 4:49:37 AM)
A teacher had that happening, somebody put an obituary in the local press, the days before you needed to show ID (it is a while ago, I was in school), turned out it wasn't even a pupil who failed a class but the soon to be ex wife, if it wouldn't be really cruel, it would have been funny, he didn't know as he was away skiing for the weekend, showed up in school on Monday and the pupils were screaming as you don't expect a dead person to give you a maths test. We were a bit naughty to an ex landlord, he never paid deposits back (we learned that after we moved out, shared student flat) and really ripped us off, relying on the fact we couldn't afford to sue him, so we went to an internet cafe, put some online ads up, selling his car cheap and another a really cheap flat to rent ("students welcome" - works really well about 2 months before university starts in a university town), and said due to shift work ring between 3 am and 6 am, with his private phone number. More of a revenge prank, but he was a real jerk, had us sign a contract for a renovated flat, of course it was not renovated, he said he would get it renovated before we move in and charged a huge deposit due to the renovations he was planning, never renovated it and in a university town you don't find a flat shortly before your courses start, so we had to move in, when we moved out he demanded that it gets renovated (painted, new floors, etc) as it is in the contract, so we did it ourselves since we couldn't afford a company or painter and decorators, which then wasn't professionally done and he kept the deposit. When we learned he does it regularly to students (that's why he didn't mind renting to freshmen) we were up for some revenge...

SirLost -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 8:10:15 AM)
Original poster here.. About the topic: I have decided not to take a step in this. I only know the nicknames of the people who are involved in this events, I had just heard their names in the chatroom while this event was discussed yesterday. I don't have her personal informations, naturally, and the ones who has don't want to get involved in this. There isn't anything much I can do, considering one week has passed since the 'kidnapping'. And what you all said here can't be ignored. About the llama drama: It isn't anything I've never witnessed. I had got some friends who were about to commit suicide constantly; I can't blame them for being just attention whores, as I know good how it's like to be young, immature and depressed. I used to hurt myself and write this in my personal blog. I thought it never was because I wanted people's attention, but looking at the past, I see the only thing that would relieve me was attention. I wasn't doing these with an "I will be hurting myself if you won't take care with me. Well?" intention, but well... And why would someone declare his/her death? I think it's because they want whoever hurt them feel guilty for a life time, they want to be the haunting ghost of their nightmares. Well, isn't it nice, being both alive and a ghost of revenge?

sunshinemiss -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 8:20:10 AM)
quote: Well, isn't it nice, being both alive and a ghost of revenge? Well said. And poetic. You seem to have a good heart. I think you should stick around. Best to you, sunshine

pahunkboy -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 10:01:09 AM)
SirL, even if you talk to the correct- authority the risk is that you would look bad- as with said reports- one has to have concrete facts- who what where when and why. The best you can do if refer the person who is crying out for help to a crises line. Each state has one- toll free number. If the person acts on that great- of not- then not much anyone can do. Even on this board - there have been people with troubles- a rational attempt to direct them to what could help... Your heart is in the right place... use it for pursuits tho- that are productive-- the Internet is often a fantasy never never land. I try to never waste the time of law enforcement. They are busy enough with out- "drama', "temper tantrooms" "gamesmanship" - It is good to care for your fellow human being. As they say- choose your battles carefully. Big smiles.

allthatjaz -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 10:07:03 AM)
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:%E2%98%AF/How_To:Fake_Your_Death_On_The_Internet. This is fun if your bored. I had forgotten all about an incident that happened about five years ago on another site, in a different chat room. We were all pally, pally and greeted one another with 'hugzzzzz' and 'lolled' at anything and everything our cyber friends said, even if it wasn't funny. Then one day after a heated discussion between two regular girls, one of them went missing and a few days later a new name appeared in the chat room claiming she was this girls sister and that our dear friend had been killed. Now her internet death was a little more complicated because at least half a dozen of us knew her in rl and regularly saw her at munches and play parties. It didn't just become the talk of the chat room but the talk of the real life scene and so it didn't take long for somebody to spot her alive and well in her local Tesco. The moral of this story is, If your going to fake your death on the internet, you should at least make sure that you don't really know anyone in rl!

AlwaysLisa -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 10:10:53 AM)
quote: And why would someone declare his/her death? The person I met and who used me as a punching bag, lied about being married, stole from me, etc...came online and changed "nicks"...for obvious reasons. He actually typed that the person I knew had died, but I knew it was him. Why would he fake his death? To elude those who knew about him. The nick may change, but the person rarely does. Lisa

pahunkboy -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 10:13:18 AM)
Jazz. I hear you. I dont do chat rooms... and prefer the over 30 crowd. I do know a guy who really did die.... it would take a while to remember it. He was an asshole. But we learned from him. A wanna be attorney. I think it was the obit in the newspaper that confirmed it. He used his real name- as he was disbarred- he was controversial. It was not a suicide- a heart attack. --so I guess that is a different ball game...

DamnPickyDomme -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 3:58:09 PM)
wow, been awhile since i frequented a chat room, and this brought back memories as to why. happened to me, someone i thought i'd known for several years decided to pull this bs and then later confessed to me who she was, tried to get me to go in on her deception. blew the whistle on her and quit talking in chats for a very long time. who needs that crap?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Saving someone's life online?! (12/15/2010 4:30:24 PM)
After reading all that, I feel so boringly normal and well adjusted, kinks or not, I'm not weird... I don't want to die, and if I should disappear for a few weeks, it's most likely work related and Peon has my numbers. And seriously, I'd hate to be referred to in the most glowing terms, that would mean all my hard work trying to piss off trolls would be in vain...

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