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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 1:59:11 PM

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I just find the whole thing sad. Then again I find any kind of killing to not be good, whether the person did something bad or not. Killing is not a joyous occasion imo even if it might be justified.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 2:22:23 PM

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I love a happy ending!

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 2:32:55 PM

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Yea the guys lucky he didn't shoot himself like a guy did yesterday in St. Louis...Came out on his porch shooting at two guys breaking into his car...missed everyone but his own leg. Wonder if this guy worried who was around when he shot the guy or if the bullet would go through him and hurt or kill an innocent bystander?

Just wondering too if he could have held them at gunpoint instead of blasting away? Untrained shooters even in self-defense are just as dangerous to those around them as to the crooks.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 2:33:51 PM

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Well life is never as black and white as people make out.

I could propose many reasons why he may be there unwillingly but this ground has been covered many times before by myself and others.

And you know what... I agree with you. He may not have been there willingly. And if so, I feel for him and his family who must be going through hell.

But if a man is part of an attack with a guy who is holding a knife, I'm not going to stop to ask a bunch a questions and get his personal story. Is it a good thing that the man died? No. But it is good that only the attackers were hurt and the victim was able to defend themselves.

And, either way, it's not petty theft. It's assault, armed robbery, etc.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 2:37:34 PM

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Yea the guys lucky he didn't shoot himself like a guy did yesterday in St. Louis...Came out on his porch shooting at two guys breaking into his car...missed everyone but his own leg. Wonder if this guy worried who was around when he shot the guy or if the bullet would go through him and hurt or kill an innocent bystander?

Just wondering too if he could have held them at gunpoint instead of blasting away? Untrained shooters even in self-defense are just as dangerous to those around them as to the crooks.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 10:03:58 PM

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It could have been prevented. If the thug had learned in time that you don't do that shit he would still be alive. Period.

Try to take my shit prepare to get drilled. It is that simple. I wish everyone one this planet had guns and whattever, as well as the lack of compunctions to shoot some son of a bitch who would get up IN YOUR FACE and try to take your shit.

I can't make it much clearer than that.

What would I say to the Mother of a thug I just killed ? "Better luck next time. Try teaching the next mufuker some manners or something ".

I take solace in the fact that most of you people think I am fucking around. I take solace in the fact that most people do, or did. I am relatively safe. I take solace in the fact that one of these bitches might target me instead of my loved ones, and I may have a chance to end their assholishness. Fuck jail, jail is fucking vacation.

You think I am kidding ? Come on down. That is what we all need. Fuck letting the incompetent gov protect us, we MUST protect ourselves.

I can't stress just how important it is for the common people to have killing machines at their disposal.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/12/2010 10:10:50 PM

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Well do you have any family members you'd like to put forward for the death camps?

There are a few, SL4. Why? Do you know somebody who can get the wheels turning?

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 6:17:03 AM

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Let us exterminate all the petty thieves then.

Ok this is just silly. Attacking someone with a knife is not a petty theft.

One had the knife, it's not clear which one was killed.

The reporting is rather vague all around. If he needed to die fair enough but it's hardly good news for anyone.

The robbers forgot the cardinal rule; "Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 7:04:13 AM

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Popster, you may have missed my entry in the humor section about this - here goes :

This guy is a friend of mine and we were sitting in the frontroom talking about guns and various weapons. He is able to beat most blackbelts up to maybe fourth or fifth degree, in many disciplines. It is his way of thinking, and on top of that he used to walk around on his hands, which is not easy at his height. He's a big motherfucker and knows how to use it.

So the door is to my left, I am in a chair. He is sitting across the frontroom and actually at that time could not see the front door. I posed the question "What if a motherfucker kicked the door down and got right here with a gun ?". There was a table, like an endtable but a really stout one, you could put your car engine on it. Small, but made from real two bys, and it wasn't pine. He said he would grab that table by a leg and shove it in the guy's face.

I thought about it. It is perfect, the gun might go off but the shooter's view is blocked, and maybe his bullet as well. If not blocked that thick wood would slow it down or deflect it. Then the fun starts and I can really visualize this guy beating the MF to death with my table. I used to work out with this guy and I know, I get pissed, just shoot him and do it real fast. He might look like a tub of lard, but he can go zero to 260MPH in about 3 milliseconds.

So the joke was born, dumbass brought a gun to a table fight.

We all have to find ways to protect ourselves. You can't count on anyhting but youself. Even your most loyal buddies, they might be 50 miles away as ten assailants cut your throat. Like they say, when seconds count the cops are only minutes away. Law and order is a farce. Security does not exist on this planet. We all need to get that through our thick heads.

Some asshole decides to rob me I'll drop his ass and not lose a minute's sleep over it. It's not a good thing but I have this problem. I simply won't put up with it. Now wonder why I have a problem with this joke we call a fuckin government.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 7:05:10 AM

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The criminal CHOSE to commit a crime. Noone decided FOR him. When you make a CHOICE, there are things called CONSEQUENCES.

When the hell are people going to take responsibility for their actions and not try to blame "society"?

"Society" doesnt commit crimes. People commit crimes.

If you commit a crime and die in the act.............tough shit.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 7:06:56 AM

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 7:11:29 AM

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"The criminal CHOSE to commit a crime"

The criminal chose to take a gamble. Let's make sure he loses.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 4:00:48 PM

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I find it disturbing that your sympathy lies with the criminals instead of their intended victim.

Aggravated robbery is acceptable to you and self-defense is not.

It is the sole reason I post about stories like this and I post a thread about every one I read. Threads like these draw out the bleeding hearts and show how truly ass backwards our society has become. I do think the pendulum is beginning to swing in the other direction (finally) which is encouraging.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 4:42:16 PM

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What happened to self accountability?

A man orders hot coffee at McDonalds, he knows it will be hot, there is a label on the cup to remind him should he forget...and yet he drinks and sues because the coffee was hot.

A woman gains 200 lbs from eating nothing but fast food. She sues the establishment for making her fat.

Those dying from cigarette induced lung cancer, taking legal action against the companies who market the cigarettes for giving them cancer.   It's not like there aren't warnings all over the freakin planet, if you happen to miss the one slapped on the carton, by the surgeon general.

A man is attacked by two persons, one wielding a knife. The victim doesn't have a knife to make this a fair fight, he uses the only weapon on his person to defend himself.   We are to feel sorry for the two men who woke up and decided to rob someone? The victim didn't go perusing the parking lot looking for someone to practice on with his new gun.

In the words of Super Chicken...."you knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred".   Self accountability for our own actions...something I fear is being lost.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 6:28:58 PM

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I just find the whole thing sad. Then again I find any kind of killing to not be good, whether the person did something bad or not. Killing is not a joyous occasion imo even if it might be justified.

My home was robbed a few months ago. I celebrate every time I read or hear about a story about a criminal who is killed by a citizen acting in self defense. I heard about this one in the car on the radio and cheered about it at a stoplight. The police cannot be everywhere and their only real job is to mop up the mess. They can't really protect us. We must do that ourselves. It's high time to take our society back from these douche bag thugs who have no respect for anyone else. I keep a loaded weapon within reach at all times whenever my surroundings permit and I am not afraid to use it.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 6:36:17 PM

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Dom what do you carry?

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 8:25:58 PM

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I never said there was anything wrong with protecting yourself. I said it's a sad thing though that someone is dead whether it be someone that did something bad or not. To me death is not a joyous occasion no matter who it is that is dying.

And yes I've come extremely close to dying by the hands of another violently more times than I care to remember. Would I be happy and thrilled if those people died? No. I would feel justified but not happy.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 8:36:23 PM

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Don't be sad, littlewonder, the individual that died here volunteered for it.

I remember my PPCT Instructor-Trainer gave us this lecture about victim vs. volunteer. He said that someone that intentionally engages in certain patterns of behavior are not victims of the outcomes of said behavior, they are volunteers. They chose to do what they did.

The person that smokes all throughout their life and gets lung cancer is not a victim, they volunteered for it.

The person that eats nothing but fast food day in and day out and is overweight is not a victim, they volunteered for it.

The person that goes around using violence and weapons to take what they want is not a victim, they volunteered for it.

I firmly believe this story's ending is a happy one. Leaving the world no poorer, one man died.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 8:37:48 PM

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Imus you just keep posting this type of story. I will await in anticipation.

For all the bleeding hearts, teach your children well. If they steal they might go to hell - sooner.

If attacked a person has a choice. Defend or capitulate. They could either be found dead in the trunk of a car months later or they can prevail and prevent this from happening to others. Your call.

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RE: Score one for the good guys - 12/13/2010 8:43:34 PM

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"it's a sad thing though that someone is dead whether it be someone that did something bad or not."

Oh ? Hitler, Stalin, McVeigh, that guy in Texas who ate Women ? Those serial killers ? Be careful when you speak in the absolute.

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