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pahunkboy -> Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 6:36:42 AM)

Student suspended for riding horse to school...

I sooooooo  know how he feels.




LaTigresse -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 7:12:18 AM)

Rode your pony to school again eh PA?




GreedyTop -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 7:23:41 AM)

SERIOUSLY?? The school compared this to bringing a firearm??  WTF??




DreadedDominance -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 7:52:35 AM)

Stupid, really just stupid.




maybemaybenot -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 8:35:07 AM)

It's Massachussetts. Our children are more delicate than a Faberge Egg. We are the poster children for idiocy and nanny state-ism.

My neice is in 4th grade, at her school if you talk in the lunchroom you will get suspended. Why, you ask ? Because if a child chokes the teachers/monitors won't be able to hear them.

It's really sickening here. This kid gets in trouble yet the bullying of Phoebe Prince went unaddressed until she killed herself.

mbmbn

Find time to get out and vote today !




pahunkboy -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 9:44:06 AM)

I cant vote.     each time I try to leave the house the phone rings....  Obama is one of the callers.




LaTigresse -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 12:04:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I cant vote.     each time I try to leave the house the phone rings....  Obama is one of the callers.


Don't answer it.




DesFIP -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 12:08:55 PM)

It's a horse for goodness sake, what is the principal's problem? I will say that it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do unless he was just going to ride up to the door and dismount, and then have the horse trailered off. All those kids yelling and running could frighten the horse and it could get hurt. But my worry here would be for the horse.




angelikaJ -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 12:52:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

It's a horse for goodness sake, what is the principal's problem? I will say that it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do unless he was just going to ride up to the door and dismount, and then have the horse trailered off. All those kids yelling and running could frighten the horse and it could get hurt. But my worry here would be for the horse.


The horse was trailered in, the teenaged boy was dressed in "medival garb" and rode the horse into the parking lot, for spirit week.
Although The Boston Globe tells a different version

And somehow the school equated this with bringing a loaded firearm to school.

I'm glad the parents are challenging the suspension.
It sounds like the vice-principal who gave the suspension might have a phobia.

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Steponme73 -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/2/2010 6:03:44 PM)

The principal is an idiot! But what can I say... It is very obvious that the horse is much smarter than the principal...Maybe they should let the horse run the school!




DarkSteven -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 1:22:11 AM)

IIRC there are schools in rural areas where kids ride horses to school every day.

Whatever happened to sitting down with the kid and chewing him out?  Now the school has a legal challenge on its hands, one which I suspect it will lose.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 6:28:55 AM)

I guess I am going to be the lone voice of dissent.  While I think comparing it to a loaded hand gun is completely overboard the parents are idiots.

You trailer a horse over, unload it, and then start parading it around the school grounds without ever talking to anyone at the school before hand.  Why would you think that was going to end well?




RapierFugue -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 6:54:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

I guess I am going to be the lone voice of dissent.  While I think comparing it to a loaded hand gun is completely overboard the parents are idiots.

You trailer a horse over, unload it, and then start parading it around the school grounds without ever talking to anyone at the school before hand.  Why would you think that was going to end well?


Well it's not a "hand-gun", but I've seen “previously calm" horses bolt before, and believe me, if a bolting horse hits you you're liable to become pâté in short order. I’d also question whether a school car-park is a suitable area for a horse to be brought into – some horses are fine with cars in a roadside environment as they pass at speed, but become agitated when exposed to them at close quarters, such as in a car park, notwithstanding the fact that access road and car-park looked pretty rural. Bottom line is that a horse has no direct braking system, and the fact it was being led is no guarantee of safety either.

I do think the punishment is completely over the top though – suspended for that? Seems somewhat extreme to me, but then I don't live in the US so maybe things are done differently there? I do know that schools in the UK have become a lot more “suspension happy” over the last few years, and kids are regularly suspended or even excluded for the kind of harmless “pranks” I and my contemporaries used to occasionally play.

I recall a highly unpleasant, balding egomaniac of a deputy headmaster who used to do a “Bobby Charlton” and comb-over what little hair remained ... one day I and a friend set up a wig-on-a-wire arrangement, set-off via a timer and a little electric motor (so that we could be in the Assembly when it happened, thus generating a decent alibi) that gently and quietly lowered a wig onto his head as he blathered on about this and that. Even the teachers and Headmaster himself (a smashing chap, as it happened) were in gales of laughter, and we escaped retribution by keeping very, very quiet about it.

You can imagine my horror when, a couple of years ago, a student in another school here was expelled for a very similar stunt, which was deemed to be “mocking authority”. Since when did mocking authority become a bad thing? Did I miss a vote?




Musicmystery -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 8:56:40 AM)

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IIRC there are schools in rural areas where kids ride horses to school every day.


What decade are you from?

They ride their four-wheelers.




LuneRune -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 5:54:39 PM)

quote:

What decade are you from?

They ride their four-wheelers.


Actually. He's right. Not everyone in rural america runs on a 4 wheeler and I used to see them all the time.




popeye1250 -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 9:59:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

It's Massachussetts. Our children are more delicate than a Faberge Egg. We are the poster children for idiocy and nanny state-ism.

My neice is in 4th grade, at her school if you talk in the lunchroom you will get suspended. Why, you ask ? Because if a child chokes the teachers/monitors won't be able to hear them.

It's really sickening here. This kid gets in trouble yet the bullying of Phoebe Prince went unaddressed until she killed herself.

mbmbn

Find time to get out and vote today !


MBMBN, correct me if I'm wrong but don't horses still have the right of way on the roads in Massachusetts?




Termyn8or -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/3/2010 10:05:54 PM)

Hey, hows about I bring a trained attack dog to school. I figure by second grade it should be cool, if I said "sikem" the kids would be more than one bite. This would give teachers, monitors and onlookers like channel five news time to tape it for the evening show. Sensational. You can't legislate against that in the face of all that lobby money unless you do it in a totally ineffactive way.

My buddy beat someone up about ten years ago and now every time he has to go to a school building he has to cut his arms off at the door and leave them in the custody of the guard. Now to reattach them when he leaves costs the school district $38,900 to fix him up, every time he has to change a lightbulb. But our children are safe from these grave dangers. God forbid one of them gets a paper cut, but that has been addressed. There are no more paper cuts, but each sheet of paper now costs us $5.92. The rule book is 1,964 pages, sells for $4,000 rounded off and is costing the district $55,966 per copy. But that money is all going for good purposes. Trust me.

T




Aneirin -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/4/2010 4:39:59 AM)

They've banned your guns your horses will be next !

But then its not the Wild West anymore, the cowboys aren't needed let alone those from a medieval time period, but public safety is our now concern or at least a job for those that like to wear hats. But if public safety is a concern then sure the spectacle should have been arranged with prior consent and consideration, as horses which might be the very best behaved in normal circumstances can change when presented with the likes as could be expected by a bunch of kids seeing a medieval dressed horseman in or outside their school.

But treating the situation as if one has brought a firearm to school is a bit much unless of course that horse itself was dressed in full battle armour and trained to be a weapon in the mêlée.




maybemaybenot -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/4/2010 6:47:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250


quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

It's Massachussetts. Our children are more delicate than a Faberge Egg. We are the poster children for idiocy and nanny state-ism.

My neice is in 4th grade, at her school if you talk in the lunchroom you will get suspended. Why, you ask ? Because if a child chokes the teachers/monitors won't be able to hear them.

It's really sickening here. This kid gets in trouble yet the bullying of Phoebe Prince went unaddressed until she killed herself.

mbmbn

Find time to get out and vote today !


MBMBN, correct me if I'm wrong but don't horses still have the right of way on the roads in Massachusetts?



Yes, popeye. Animals and horsedrawn carriages still have the right of way. It's actually on the State Drivers Manual. However, you cannot have a gorilla in the backseat of your car. You WILL be arrested.

Off topic: Taxi drivers are not allowed to make love on the front seat of their taxi during work hours. Back seat is OK, Off hours is OK, but no humpy bumpy in the front seat while on duty !!!!!!!

mbmbn




MercTech -> RE: Student suspended for riding horse to school... (11/4/2010 7:25:41 PM)

Looks like a fairly decent spangen helm but where is the armor and barding?

I'm more accustomed to schools inviting SCA members to show up in armor for history classes and equestrians invited to be part of pep rallies and halftime shows at football games.

If someone had done that while I was in high school the principal would be more likely to be saying, "Boys, good stunt, but I'd better not find any road apples on campus or you'll be cleaning em up after school!"

Stefan




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