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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 1:39:19 AM   
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Yes it's wrong.  And you're going to Hell for doing it.
Hypnotism is the work of the fallen Angel Lucifer and you're letting the demons inside of your Slaves.


How are the demons inside the slaves? As in possession or the good way? :P

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 1:39:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: inkSecret
Yes it's wrong.  And you're going to Hell for doing it.
Hypnotism is the work of the fallen Angel Lucifer and you're letting the demons inside of your Slaves.


LOL, you made me giggle so hard I choked on my skull-pop.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 1:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good heavens, where did the OP get his information about hypnosis?
I'm...I'm...speechless.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 1:56:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressRosalyn

Good heavens, where did the OP get his information about hypnosis?
I'm...I'm...speechless.



Well, if they wanted to crave him more and be more obedient, then hypnosis would technically help. But that's only if they wanted or were willing to be such. lol.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 6:23:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: aBondageTop

'Neurological imaging techniques provide no evidence of a neurological pattern that can be equated with a "hypnotic trance"'

I don't think hypnosis is different from any other state of concentration, nor do I believe that subjects can really be controlled against their will.





There are however states of receptivity that can be tracked in brain waves, most notable delta. The so called power of suggestion, used properly has far more affect and if hypnosis indeed works it wouldn't happen in a state of concentration unless subliminal input or out of detectable range (normal hearing) input is used.

Controlled against the will is indeed possible though highly unethical if the subject has no desire for the intrusion imo.

http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm ... There is still a lot of study that needs to be done but a number of armies have used brain wave entrainment to disorient the enemy using constant beta range sounds.... that we would equate with annoying repetitive noise. The real hypnotic affect comes in underlying binaural or isochronic tones.

I was hypMotized to post this.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 6:38:33 AM   
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Is it wrong to hypnotize slaves to control their minds and make them crave you more or be more obedient? Thoughts?? Opinions??


Let's assume for the sake of argument that this works, meaning that the subject becomes fully entrained and reaches the depth of craving you want or hope to accomplish. How then, when things become way too much for you to handle, ie - the subject is craving you so much that it interferes with you living your life or annoys the fuck out of you.

Consequences. It ain't so easy to get the shit back in the horse.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 6:45:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		and after youve hypnotised her and if later she fails to be obedient would you question youre hypnotising abilities or her ability to submit .  

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 11:32:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is it wrong? Depends on whether or not there is consent. Is it doable? Not unless you're repeating the hypnotic suggestion daily. And honestly, why waste the time to hypnotize her into believing that instead of spending the time being the person you want her to believe you are?

Why not have her love, respect, adore and desire you because of traits you really possess, instead of her actually loving, respecting, adoring and desiring a fantasy man who you don't resemble in the least while being terrified all the time about her learning the truth and seeing you as you are.

Be a man worth adoring and then you'll find someone who does.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 12:08:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's pretty well all been covered, and yes it's wrong.  If you had to ask the question, you should have already known the answer. 

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 1:02:38 PM   
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I have to agree with Dark Steven.  Sounds as if you are trying to figure out a way to get those tributes you want coming in bigger and faster.   So yes, it is unethical and wrong to use hypnosis to increase those tributes and is most likely very illegal. 

Tell you what.   An arrogant 22 year old who brags about how Dominant he is while begging for tribute sounds desperate, and not much like a Dominant. 

My 2 cents worth. 

This was so good that I quoted it just to make it appear on the screen again.

On the actual subject, I don't know that much about hypnosis.  The ethical question seems to parallel two others that get asked with some frequency.  Those being 1) if a person is under the influence of a substance, is it ethical to push them farther and 2) is the same thing ethical if the person is so far in sub space that they may be more prone to suggestion in pushing their hard limits.  In My opinion, the answer to these is no.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 7:19:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I crave to serve and be with MasterK because he is honorable, sadistic, dominant, compatible in so called "vanilla" ways. He does not need to force it, or hypnotise me to be with him.

You need to be the kind of man/dominant a submissive/slave would want to be with by choice, not because you have hypnotised her into desiring you.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 8:00:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a fast reply in response to some of the people who say that he needs to be a proper man to make her want to serve him.

I TOTALLY agree with all that sentiment. He SHOULD be a man that she wants to serve.

But I also want to add this:
I also see nothing wrong with hypnotism if she does agree to it, because I've heard some DAMN funny stories about erotic hypnotism. Like when a sub is hypnotized to forget to how to put on clothes again. The people that this works on (which is a lot of people) are the ones that would probably be willing to be naked in the first place - the idea of the hypnotism is to get the mind to agree/consent to tricking itself. But apparently it works on a LOT of people. And it's just awesomely sweet when it can be used in erotic play, make interesting and amazing stories, all sorts of things to the consenting mind. With the hypnotism to forget how to put clothes on, the mind is tricking itself into not remembering something that was taught years ago and is engraved in their mind - it just chooses to ignore it. So you'll get a girl trying to put a bra on around her hips and not figuring out how the clasp goes.

So long as there's consent, I see nothing wrong with it - and obviously neither does she. And if there isn't any consent - I doubt it'd work even if he tried, because without the minds' consent you can do absolutely nothing to change it.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/19/2010 8:31:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have to want to be hypnotize number one...mainly be able and willing. Secondly, most submissive/slaves I know...have a mind of their own. If anyone is open enough to trust you to do this, you better be a damn GOOD PERSON- I mean a real good person with good judgement- who is NOT trying to take advantage of someone and only use hypnosis as a source of pleasure for you BOTH.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/20/2010 11:17:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: aBondageTop

'Neurological imaging techniques provide no evidence of a neurological pattern that can be equated with a "hypnotic trance"'

I don't think hypnosis is different from any other state of concentration, nor do I believe that subjects can really be controlled against their will.

THIS.
Much as the whole mind control thing is apparently a fun fantasy for a lot of people, I have yet to come across anything other than laughter from the scientific community. This includes hypnosis, NLP, and everything else I've ever heard of.

So what I'd say is that you should hypnotize whoever you want to for whatever purpose you want to. I don't think you can actually cross boundaries this way.


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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/20/2010 3:45:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see nothing wrong with hypnosis in general, just not to influence how a
submissive/slave feels about her dominant/master.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/20/2010 10:15:46 PM   
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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/21/2010 9:27:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is important to understand that no one can be hypnotized and feed subconcious suggestions unless they allow themselves to be.

Our minds are designed to accept those ideas and thoughts that are within the same refernce of thought we already have.

If we seek to be controlled then we will allow someone to feed those suggestions into our mind.

If we are not feeling that desire our mind will combat those suggestions and reject them.

This is my point of reference. I could be mistaken when discussing your experiences.

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/22/2010 7:27:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		If they have the power within to submit mentally....not a need to hypnotize them.
Its the even better actually...
I have always known thats a delicate place for someone to be and treat it accordinally...

Theres a few I would like to hypnotize for a night though =coughs=

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RE: Is it wrong.. - 10/22/2010 8:16:35 AM   
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How to make a sub crave you more? Can the hypnosis idea.

Try making your partner respect you, love you, adore you, like you, enjoy your time together, and make her so excited to be with you that she craves you with every fiber of her being. Be a stand up guy, be funny, be reliable and be great in bed.

That can actually happen in real life..even without hypnosis.


Yep, THIS.

Works far better than hypnosis.

Now yanno i've been doing this and been on boards (similar to this) for a long time this is the FIRST time in awhile i had to go look to someone else's profile to find out what something meant.

"tributing" was a new one on me.

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