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Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/8/2010 8:36:51 AM   
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Ok-  lets spare the list here the same ole- back and forth... we know the typical arguments.

So grasp for the new aspects of this debate.

This article is a good read.   One of the better ones I have seen.

The idea of updating your facebook and twitter while driving is pathetic.
I also disagree that voice activated items are of any use. Sometimes I am not able to talk clearly- so for me voice activated would be terrible!  It would add frustration to me and raise my blood pressure- because I would feel too dumb to operate a basic function.  I would guess others are not good at annunciation too.    But maybe this is an over 40 concern.






http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-08/lahood-weighs-urging-u-s-ban-on-all-driver-phone-use-in-cars.html
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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/8/2010 11:59:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the ban will fly, and I'm looking forward to mating my phone to the car's Bluetooth connection.  When I dial by hand I always make sure there's a lot of empty road in front of me!  Although there's no accounting for squirrels, deer, etc.

I thought it was interesting that he gives stats for driver distraction, but doesn't say how many were due to phone use.  You could drop a cigarette, be fumbling a map, looking at a handheld gps, fetching CDs (for us old-school types), etc.  Or my personal fave, applying makeup.

I think it would be pretty clumsy to update Facebook or issue twitters, but having them read aloud wouldn't be any different than books on tape.  Wonder how the system would handle netspeak?

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/8/2010 12:10:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you ban cell phones in cars, you should also ban drive thru windows (food& drink), cigarettes, makeup, razors, newspapers, beard trimmers, eyebrow tweezers, books and ESPECIALLY little yappy assed dogs on the driver's lap.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/8/2010 12:28:58 PM   
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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/8/2010 5:53:31 PM   
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If you ban cell phones in cars, you should also ban drive thru windows (food& drink), cigarettes, makeup, razors, newspapers, beard trimmers, eyebrow tweezers, books and ESPECIALLY little yappy assed dogs on the driver's lap.


Im cool with that.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 8:01:48 AM   
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I thought it was interesting that he gives stats for driver distraction, but doesn't say how many were due to phone use.



A Comparison of the Cell Phone Driver and the Drunk Driver

We compared the cell phone driver with the drunk driver for two reasons.

First, there are now clear societal norms associated with intoxicated driving, and laws in the United States expressly prohibit
driving with a blood alcohol level at or above 0.08%.

Logical consistency would seem to dictate that any activity that leads to impairments in driving equal to or greater
than the drunk driving standard should be avoided (Willette & Walsh, 1983).

Second, the epidemiological study by Redelmeier and Tibshirani (1997) suggested that “the relative risk [of being
in a traffic accident while using a cell phone] is similar to the hazard associated with driving with
a blood alcohol level at the legal limit” (p. 456).

The data presented in this article are consistent with this estimate and indicate that when driving
conditions and time on task are controlled for, the impairments associated with using a cell phone
while driving can be as profound as those associated with driving with a blood alcohol level at 0.08%.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 8:11:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I live on a busy street. I can watch out my window and almost touch the cars.  Every 4th car- the driver is on the phone.   I was surprised- 

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 8:35:52 AM   
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I live on a busy street. I can watch out my window and almost touch the cars.  Every 4th car- the driver is on the phone.   I was surprised- 


What amazes me is when I see cops driving around with a cell phone stuck in their ear.

And while we are at it let's ban their use in restrooms.  I can't tell you how many times I've stood next to someone at the urinal talking on a cell phone.  I've talked to people on the phone when it was pretty obvious what they were doing.  Do they think that people can't hear them pissing...........or worse?

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 9:05:52 AM   
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What amazes me is when I see cops driving around with a cell phone stuck in their ear.


I see that fairly often around here but I don't think much of it as long as they aren't violating the law themselves. Most cops are just 9 to 5 folks like everyone else - just making a living and waiting for the end of the the shift. Nothing more and nothing less. The apathy etched in the face of the officer who responded to a recent burglary in our building solidified that opinion for me.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 9:15:18 AM   
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I live on a busy street. I can watch out my window and almost touch the cars.  Every 4th car- the driver is on the phone.   I was surprised- 


What amazes me is when I see cops driving around with a cell phone stuck in their ear.

And while we are at it let's ban their use in restrooms.  I can't tell you how many times I've stood next to someone at the urinal talking on a cell phone.  I've talked to people on the phone when it was pretty obvious what they were doing.  Do they think that people can't hear them pissing...........or worse?




I think we should film that.   ;-)

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 9:27:22 AM   
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I live on a busy street. I can watch out my window and almost touch the cars.  Every 4th car- the driver is on the phone.   I was surprised- 


What amazes me is when I see cops driving around with a cell phone stuck in their ear.

And while we are at it let's ban their use in restrooms.  I can't tell you how many times I've stood next to someone at the urinal talking on a cell phone.  I've talked to people on the phone when it was pretty obvious what they were doing.  Do they think that people can't hear them pissing...........or worse?




I think we should film that.   ;-)



Which one?  The cop or the urinal?

Usually at the urinal I try to "accidentally" bump into them to see if I can get them to drop it in the bowl.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 9:33:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		- I dont care for people on cell phones in public.  I start to hate the person.  It is like the guy is talking to himself.  It is noise pollution.

I will text when I am say  in a waiting room.  That way I can kill time, share thoughts.

Most phone conversations are boring.   Heck even calls for ME are often BORING!!

Cops on cell phones dont bother me.

Sometimes I wish I had a jammer.    That would lose the call.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 10:08:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Talking on the cell phone when using the toilet. Yep, that person's life must be really important. I am impressed.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 1:00:03 PM   
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- I dont care for people on cell phones in public.  I start to hate the person.  It is like the guy is talking to himself.  It is noise pollution.

I will text when I am say  in a waiting room.  That way I can kill time, share thoughts.

Most phone conversations are boring.   Heck even calls for ME are often BORING!!

Cops on cell phones dont bother me.

Sometimes I wish I had a jammer.    That would lose the call.



This is what I do not understand, do you find people talking in general to be annoying, or just talking on cell phones?

I do not drive, and if I did I wouldn't be plugged into a cell phone. I refrain from cell phone use at any place that it would be rude to talk... this means conferences, in class, or in a movie theater. But if people do not want to hear me talk while I am walking down the street, or on the bus, or out at a restaurant... well those people can just fuck off and set an example by keeping their traps shut and never talking to anyone while they walk, are out at a restaurant, or on a bus.

I do not understand it when people think that someone having a phone conversation in an environment that has people talking in it is somehow rude. If it is rude to talk while shopping, well then all people should keep their pieholes shut and not talk to their kids, spouses or friends... whether physically present or not

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 1:27:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it only becomes rude if your talking on the cellphone interfers with others getting things done. If you are holding up the checkout line or standing in front of an area obstructing trafific than I get annoyed.

Do I really want to go to a restuarant and hear someone's conversation? No, but I doubt I would get annoyed unless they were loud or discussing something personal.

Actually, I find  that people. particularly those in the company of others, who  texr and use their cell phone for long conversations at a resturant or social event kind of sad. How can you not disconnect to enjoy a meal or company? Oc course, that's just my take.  

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 1:33:33 PM   
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Talking on the cell phone when using the toilet. Yep, that person's life must be really important. I am impressed.


The epitome of multi-tasking.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 2:49:11 PM   
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I live on a busy street. I can watch out my window and almost touch the cars.  Every 4th car- the driver is on the phone.   I was surprised- 


What amazes me is when I see cops driving around with a cell phone stuck in their ear.

And while we are at it let's ban their use in restrooms.  I can't tell you how many times I've stood next to someone at the urinal talking on a cell phone.  I've talked to people on the phone when it was pretty obvious what they were doing.  Do they think that people can't hear them pissing...........or worse?




I think we should film that.   ;-)



Which one?  The cop or the urinal?

Usually at the urinal I try to "accidentally" bump into them to see if I can get them to drop it in the bowl.


Naw, just lean down near to the phone and state loudly "What's the green stuff dripping of the end"

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 3:55:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is what I do not understand, do you find people talking in general to be annoying, or just talking on cell phones?/snip

it is as intrusive as a commercial is.

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RE: Feds consider cell phone ban in cars - 10/9/2010 4:04:17 PM   
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