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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 8/30/2010 5:11:58 PM   
Pyramus


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Status: offline 		Even countries with nuclear bombs have limits.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 8/30/2010 5:17:06 PM   
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And amazingly enough, in a wonderful example of calculated risk management, I'm willing to accept the risks that go along with the brain aneurysm (thanks for the correct spelling *laughs*) given the probabilities attached to those risks.


Too much risk for me. I've seen too many people who were perfectly healthy once grow into mental illnesses that caused paranoia, delusions and violence - or become accidently addicted to a prescription.

Anyone who would obey the command without going "This is weird... he's never told me to kill someone before, what's going on?" makes me uncomfortable. I've seen it happen too many times. I can't fathom why anyone would want their property to just obey that sort of command without at least questioning it. We firmly believe it reflects better on the owner that the property seek to get the owner treatment than to obey a command caused by an unhealthy state.

I've experienced the fear that comes from someone having delusions about a relationship with you. I couldn't sleep with myself at night if I assisted someone like that in harming someone else, physically or emotionally. I couldn't be around someone else who could without a problem. It was just... too terrible.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 9:24:16 AM   
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But even during those historic times, there were limits on the treatment of slaves as chattel. Festivals such as Saturnalia highlighted this, while Spartican uprisings brutally stamped out by Pompey made it painfully clear that even real slaves could be pushed only to their limits before they refused the tasks of their Masters.


But I'm guessing that Pompey didn't opt to free any of the captured slaves when they said "Oh no... crucifixion is a hard limit for me"?

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 9:26:47 AM   
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Even countries with nuclear bombs have limits.


We hope

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 10:15:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pyramus

Even countries with nuclear bombs have limits.


We hope


The limit is how fast it takes for them to get to the big red button, the jolly candy like button.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 10:46:46 AM   
SomethingCatchy


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Status: offline 		Whenever someone tells me they're a 'no limit slave' I always ask them if they'll hand over all their bank accounts, funds, properties, and stocks to me, and then get screwed by a random farm animal in front of their mother. Many of them come back saying 'I'm not into that sort of thing.' So, really, they're just liars.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 12:01:25 PM   
FamilyofM


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Status: offline 		No limit sounds romantic to some. IMO I want a slave with a brain. I do not want someone who would do ANYTHING without question. That would concern me. However everyone's mileage will vary on this topic. No limits includes things such as those too young to consent, etc. I am certain that given enough thought most would admit that there ARE indeed some limits. Limits in my opinion are a good thing. Negotiable, but necessary.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 3:54:51 PM   
peacefulplace


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Status: offline 		In the real world, limits exist. They are called "laws" and "social conventions." In the real world, if a slave were "no-limits," then s/he would either have a very hard time with the social scene or be thrown in jail.

Also, I cannot imagine a Master/Mistress asking His/Her slave to do something illegal or that would have the slave ostraciszed from society. BDSM does allow for common sense, after all.

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/1/2010 6:40:56 PM   
afkarr


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Status: offline 		What's even more frightening than an unhinged and slightly delusional slave that thinks they have no limits, is a wannabe Dom who thinks that's what they want, and can handle it, while it reality they're greener than July grass. (There is a critter running around my parts yabbering about dolcett and no limits and such; in reality yours truely had to point him to a kink 101 primer on aftercare. The world will be a better place if he doesn't find what he's looking for anytime soon.)

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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 12:09:24 AM   
Zentoid


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Status: offline 		My petling has no limits for me.

For the exact reason as you stated: I wont go certain places. We've been together long enough. she did not start off with the no limits though, and we progress in trust to that.


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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 12:24:21 AM   
BentUnit


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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 7:18:27 AM   
NuevaVida


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Status: offline 		Here's how it works for me - I aligned myself with a man whose moral code I admire, and who conducts his life in a way that I admire, and who I took the time to know before giving myself to.

He has limits.  His limits are more narrow/strict than mine would be.  I live within his limits.  So I really don't think about whether I have or don't have limits.  I don't have to.  We didn't have to negotiate limits.  I didn't provide him a list of all the heinous acts I won't do, like kidnapping babies or sacrificing old ladies.  What a waste of energy that would be.  The only thing I said to him, limit-wise, was "Love me, love my cat.  If you don't want a woman with a cat, move on, because the cat stays with me as long as we both shall live."

Otherwise, limits/no limits just doesn't come up. If he wants something, and it scares me or freaks me out, or causes me any other extremely negative emotion, we talk about it, and he decides if we do it anyway or table it or toss it.  And guess what - I trust him with those decisions.  That's why he's in charge.  That's why I gave myself to him.  He takes my well being into account and won't cause undue harm or stress on me.

If he were the type of man who got off on causing me undue harm or stress, I wouldn't have given myself to him.


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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 7:41:53 AM   
DesFIP


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Moreover a smart dominant would want a sub with strong boundaries so he doesn't wind up going to jail when he has that brain aneurysm and decides to commit such a heinous act.
... wow, it's been a long time since anyone thought of me as dumb. I usually get arrogant and other things of that ilk.

For the record, I do not want Carol second guessing my commands nor do I want her using her own sense of "right" and "wrong". I'd hope that she would've come to trust mine long before she agreed to give herself to me as property. And amazingly enough, in a wonderful example of calculated risk management, I'm willing to accept the risks that go along with the brain aneurysm (thanks for the correct spelling *laughs*) given the probabilities attached to those risks.


You may be willing to accept going to jail for committing a truly horrible act should you have a stroke (aneurysms are more likely to just kill you, strokes change personalities). But if you had this stroke and you changed so much from the person you are, in effect she would be taking on an entirely new dominant. One whom she didn't know well enough to trust to this extent.

Of course now I'm wondering about submission to someone with DID, formerly known as multiple personality. If you submitted to personality A, are you also required to submit to personality B?


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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 8:39:16 AM   
MrBukani


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RE: HOW LARGE IS YOUR “NO-LIMIT”? - 9/2/2010 9:25:38 AM   
Whiplashsmile4


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Status: offline 		LOL... Hell, I myself have Limits. Mind you, these limits have changed other time. Either new limits discovered or old ones becoming no more.

Reality and Imagination are at times in conflict with one another, then again they also go together hand and hand like Jack-n-Jill.

I don't have any complaints as long as I get to enjoy myself and have a good time. I hate it when I'm with somebody that has way too many limits, or is into far less than what I'm into doing.

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