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Public humiliation - 8/22/2010 10:44:28 PM   
Nehemiah


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Status: offline 		I was at a play party and I was caught by surprise when a group of women asked me into a private room and told me to get on stage and do a striptease for them. I wasn't sure if they were serious at first, but when the all lined up the chairs around the make-shift stage and hit it with a spotlight I decided to play along. They seemed more amused and entertained by my dance, so I just kept camping it up.

Later on I found out that the other guys who were taken into the room weren't as entertaining. My friend told me they were probably embarrassed at being forced into a room and being made to strip in front of women they didn't know.

I'm wondering what it feels like to be humiliated in this way. Is there a sexual excitement that comes from it? Am I missing out on a thrill that others feel who aren't as extroverted?

I have other kinky friends who love public humiliation. One friend loves it when she asks me to get on my knees and kiss her feet and ass in a large crowded store. I'm one of those clueless guys who when a woman asks me to do something like this, I just think, "Okay, I can do that. I don't know why she wants me to, but I'll do it if that's what she wants."

It wasn't until last night when my friend mentioned public humiliation that it all clicked in place and I started thinking back and remembering all of this.

And for the women who like having a guy kiss your feet in public or sing, "I'm a little teapot" and dance at the DMV; what is the thrill from this. One of my motivations to do these things in public was because my friend's face lights up afterwards and she looks so beautiful when she is that happy. Very hard to resist.
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RE: Public humiliation - 8/22/2010 10:56:20 PM   
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Uhh... were these guys actually forced into doing it? I'm wondering why the DMs allowed anyone to be *forced* into anything at a play party. And why you'd get kinky in the middle of a crowded store, forcing your kink on the unconsenting viewers.

But I'm conservative that way...

To attempt to answer your question: I'd suspect the thrill is much the same as the guy who opens his trenchcoat to flash unsuspecting and unconsenting women his junk. At least in terms of the acts you've described.

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RE: Public humiliation - 8/22/2010 11:19:00 PM   
Nehemiah


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Status: offline 		At this play party the women got in free and the guys paid an entrance fee to attend. The women had complete control of what went on there. Later in the evening there was a slave auction, where the women bid on their favorite subs. I wasn't actually one of the subs who was attending. I was just there to help clean and set up the food and drinks. I think I was drafted into the slave auction because I'm a good sport and friends with some of the women who were there.

For the public scenes, we only did it when there were just adults in the vicinity. It wasn't like we would do it at a Toys'R'Us. When I looked up as I was getting back on my feet I noticed that many of the women around us were smiling. Maybe this is something women in general enjoy.

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RE: Public humiliation - 8/22/2010 11:25:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the public, I really don't give a crap that there were only adults around. I'm a kinky adult and I still don't want to be forced to a watch a scene while shoe-shopping. I'd say you got lucky - I'd be shooting you a death glare and possibly asking management to kick you out on your ass depending on the specifics.

For the play party, it sounds like these men knew what they were getting into and weren't actually forced. Probably just body shy/stage fright. Assuming no one was preventing them from leaving of course.

Edited to add: It's entirely possible you got smiles cause all the folks like me, who loathe being forced to watch other people's kink, already left in disgust/annoyence. Only the folks interested stayed. Like at a play party, only there it's expected and people know what they are getting into. Unlike a crowded store.

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RE: Public humiliation - 8/23/2010 12:10:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess I see your point. It's like those Disney films such as Lady and the Tramp. As a kid, I just want to see a cartoon not some romance movie and especially not this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxDdz-Anls. Any adults emulating that scene in a real restaurant would probably turn everyone's stomach.

I have experienced old ladies getting up in disgust when I was younger attending a movie with my girlfriend and the two of just wanted to be affectionate. Point taken and understood.

I used public humiliation for my title rather than "coerced into something a guy may not want to do, but does to acquire something else he desires" to be concise and cover other areas of the subject. But I am curious about the concept of public humiliation and the thrill of that fetish.

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RE: Public humiliation - 8/23/2010 12:15:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nehemiah

I used public humiliation for my title rather than "coerced into something a guy may not want to do, but does to acquire something else he desires" to be concise and cover other areas of the subject. But I am curious about the concept of public humiliation and the thrill of that fetish.


Understandable - my issue, with the party part, was more with the term forced. I guess because it freaks me out to think of people being forced into things at a BDSM event. Beyond by those they are owned by of course. Still, for me, I would suspect the thrill is much like that of flashers. Making others, who didn't consent, witness their kink. IMHO, if it was just the thrill of making of making someone obey in public, they could go with much more subtle commands.

I'll be interested in further reasons/explainations.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/14/2010 4:02:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would have no problem with a number of women forcing me to do a strip.  Of course I love to make the ladies laugh and smile so if they wanted it, I would do it.  Not sure why many guys would

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/14/2010 4:08:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm an exhibitionist. I love attention.  Even if that is people laughing at me as I do something embarassing.  Now I am not going to force it on someone, although I do sometimes act up in public places to get attention it's not in a sexual way.  I can definitely see the attraction in doing a striptease at a play party, especcially if the women were acting a bit coercive to get me to do so, it would make me feel wanted, desired in a way that made them get pushy.  I figure it is the same sort of feeling someone gets from being the victim in a rape play scene. 

I'd definitely push the strip tease a bit over the top and get very silly (and, just as an aside if anyone wants to see a video of me doing just that, let me know) after all, if I am changing things from being forced into something embarassing and being laughed at to intentionally putting on a funny show and the laughs being a form of appreciation, well, then I take the control back.  That gratifies my Dom side.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/14/2010 7:30:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't know because I'm a sub, but I would enjoy watching a show like that :)

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/14/2010 10:03:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nehemiah

I used public humiliation for my title rather than "coerced into something a guy may not want to do, but does to acquire something else he desires" to be concise and cover other areas of the subject. But I am curious about the concept of public humiliation and the thrill of that fetish.


Understandable - my issue, with the party part, was more with the term forced. I guess because it freaks me out to think of people being forced into things at a BDSM event. Beyond by those they are owned by of course. Still, for me, I would suspect the thrill is much like that of flashers. Making others, who didn't consent, witness their kink. IMHO, if it was just the thrill of making of making someone obey in public, they could go with much more subtle commands.

I'll be interested in further reasons/explainations.
Nehemiah's two examples appear to cover two quite different circumstances. I'm not too sure about the motivation of people who actually allow D/s interactions to be witnessed by the general public, so I won't comment on that except to say that I have come to agree that doing so is unethical.

A play party is, or certainly should be different. I'm going to assume that the guys in question were cajoled rather than actually forced onstage and not allowed to leave. And in a case like that, the motivation is almost certainly just a variation on the motive that underlies so many submissive actions in D/s: the wish to be made to feel "helpless"...and then required to do something that one really would like to do anyway.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/14/2010 10:49:12 PM   
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Uhh... were these guys actually forced into doing it? I'm wondering why the DMs allowed anyone to be *forced* into anything at a play party. And why you'd get kinky in the middle of a crowded store, forcing your kink on the unconsenting viewers.

But I'm conservative that way...

To attempt to answer your question: I'd suspect the thrill is much the same as the guy who opens his trenchcoat to flash unsuspecting and unconsenting women his junk. At least in terms of the acts you've described.


I'm pretty sure that this was a fantasy.  At least the part in the Department store, anyway! 


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RE: Public humiliation - 10/15/2010 1:45:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

~Fast Reply~

Uhh... were these guys actually forced into doing it? I'm wondering why the DMs allowed anyone to be *forced* into anything at a play party. And why you'd get kinky in the middle of a crowded store, forcing your kink on the unconsenting viewers.

But I'm conservative that way...

To attempt to answer your question: I'd suspect the thrill is much the same as the guy who opens his trenchcoat to flash unsuspecting and unconsenting women his junk. At least in terms of the acts you've described.


Some people like to be *forced* maybe that is why they allow themselves to be *forced*, cos it seems to me that usually a person can just walk away, say NO, chicken out or hide when they really do not want to do something...

to compare a bit of public play between lovers with a flasher attacking females is just dim in my opinion
If you see two people getting jiggy you can just not look if you don't wanna see ( i personally quite like to witness a bit of subtle and fun naughtyness every so often)
But if you are targeted by a flasher it feels quite like a direct violation, the flashing is aimed at you, you are being used and an active part of the act, it is disgusting.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/15/2010 4:49:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		How do you know he's aiming it at you? It could well be the cute girl on the bus standing behind you. Or the good looking guy.

I also vote against wanting to see people kiss asses literally in public. I don't enjoy watching the metaphorical kind either. But just because you enjoy watching others behave in a sexual manner doesn't mean that the man next to you is also a voyeur.

However back to the op's original question. I think, that to enjoy humiliation, you must have some sexual conflicts. Otherwise you would not enjoy being 'forced' into doing it. For those of us who have no conflicts sexually, erotic embarrassment doesn't exist. For me, it goes straight to degradation because there is no secret desire to do exactly what I protest I don't want to do. For the op, who has an enjoyment of being watched, it goes straight toward capturing his audience with his show.


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RE: Public humiliation - 10/15/2010 5:22:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with DarlinSavage on this one. I think that the OP's thread is complete fantasy and nothing more. He ' just happened ' to be at the party to clean up ? Right.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/15/2010 6:33:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		If public humiliation or ordering a slave to strip and serve naked was reserved for members of a local group or gathering in private or even in a public access BDSM Dungeon, I have no issues with watching or ordering a girl (she would have to be my slut) to do so. If it was in a public which included the unwashed mundane masses, I wouldn't waste my time with them unless I was being paid large sums of money and it was legal to do so..

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/15/2010 8:27:57 PM   
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I think, that to enjoy humiliation, you must have some sexual conflicts. Otherwise you would not enjoy being 'forced' into doing it. For those of us who have no conflicts sexually, erotic embarrassment doesn't exist.
This is brilliant.

I realized that my answer above was incomplete: I talked about the desire to be "forced" into something, but forgot to adress the question of why humiliation would be a specific fetish.

But DesFIP got there first, and in incisive fashion.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/16/2010 6:25:23 AM   
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RE: Public humiliation - 10/18/2010 1:29:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

How do you know he's aiming it at you? It could well be the cute girl on the bus standing behind you. Or the good looking guy.

I also vote against wanting to see people kiss asses literally in public. I don't enjoy watching the metaphorical kind either. But just because you enjoy watching others behave in a sexual manner doesn't mean that the man next to you is also a voyeur.





I have seen several flashers, it is true that some seem to flash randomly, maybe at a train going past and the travellers in the train might see him or not even look up from their paper...
some flashers though... they single you out, it is only a step off a physical assault, i know, i have experienced it, it was NOT aimed at the cute girl in the bus or the goodlooking guy, it was aimed at me and it was bloody scary.

Also i rather see some intimacy between a couple than all these billboards with women in underwear sticking their tits at the camers to advertise wonderbras or squinting guys with socks bulging in their underpants selling man perfume or summit, but everybody to their own... the only thing you can do is try to look away if you do not wanna see it, cos there is no way of stopping it it seems.
In Europe even the busstops have lightcommercials with tits and bulging underwear it is everywhere and disgusting.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/18/2010 7:27:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

However back to the op's original question. I think, that to enjoy humiliation, you must have some sexual conflicts. Otherwise you would not enjoy being 'forced' into doing it. For those of us who have no conflicts sexually, erotic embarrassment doesn't exist. For me, it goes straight to degradation because there is no secret desire to do exactly what I protest I don't want to do. For the op, who has an enjoyment of being watched, it goes straight toward capturing his audience with his show.



Sorry, but I vehemently disagree on that line. I think you are basing your opinion on what you perceive, not trying to understand what other's feel.

The topic of public or private humiliation is very varied; and has a myriad of reasons why people like what they like.

I like private behavior only and I love sexual humiliation. I have no sexual conflicts whatsoever and yet erotic embarrassment is a big turn on. In fact, I am very confident and discovered this turn years and years ago and with the right one, it works perfectly.

I don't play with degradation; there is a vast area of difference between degradation and sexual humiliation. Oh, and sometimes a turn on is just that, a turn on and does not have to have some deep seated psychological explanation for why something makes you hard or wet.

For public kink, that is a whole other area and since I don't get into public or forcing my kink on others, I don't have a comment.

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RE: Public humiliation - 10/18/2010 12:28:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		As anyone who has read My views in various threads about humiliation and degradation knows, my thoughts are similar to sexyred's.  I am one of those who also feels there is a chasm between humiliation and degradation and I don't feel that there has to be some deep psychological/emotional twist for someone to enjoy something.  Sometimes it is as simple as "I should not like to suck cock the way I do...but I do...and him knowing it and enjoying it while telling me what a cucksucking, craven slut I am makes me wet".

As one who has used these types of sexual mind games and keeps searching out what I can on them, I say "enjoy".

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