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Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 5:01:09 AM   
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I organize quite a good number of BDSM events and parties. There is a lot of work involved in pulling off a good party, not just in the planning stages but at the event itself. What I have been finding lately is that I am so busy keeping up on everything that must be done that I don't have time to relax/play/enjoy the event myself.

I remember a time when at a party or event, it seemed like every submissive in attendance would come at some point and say "Is there anything I can do to help?". It was kind of simple, common courtesy. This seems to be something that no longer just happens. Yes, there are always a few, usually the older submissives or submissives that have been around awhile that can be counted on to help out. It also seemed that dominants used to instruct their submissives to offer to help out too.

Now don't misunderstand me, I don't believe that what I am seeing is some sort of "intentional slacking", it seems to be more of a generational thing. I notice the same thing at family gatherings...as teenagers we were always expected to help and clean up and such....now the teenagers all wander off to groups to watch tv, socialize or play video games. So I am thinking that it is more likely to be just the way we are raised. Also, it may indeed be very possible that while there may be a desire on their part to help, they simply don't really know what to do.

I don't really feel comfortable dictating to people, "Hey, you have to do this or that" and I don't want to get on the wrong side of any dominants who may feel I have overstepped my bounds by telling their submissive to do something. So I've been tossing around a few ideas to try to get everyone on board. As you all know, many hands make light work. I am not expecting anyone to do major jobs, just little things. But when only one or two people are trying to do ALL of the little things, well, the job can be overwhelming.

One of the ideas I have been toying with is to make a list of duties that need to be done and asking if people would please sign on to a duty they might like to do. Small things like "Please keep an eye on trash cans so they don't overflow" or "Every couple of hours check the bathroom to be sure there are fresh towels and toilet paper...maybe wipe down the sink" or "Keep an eye to make sure food is covered and bowls are kept full".

The other idea is asking if a few people would sign on for certain blocks of time to make sure things stay running smoothly and supplies are readily available and stocked.

So my questions to you all are:

"Would you be offended if asked to pitch in just a little?"

"Do you think that either of the ideas I've mentioned would work well in practice or do you feel that it would be imposing and presumptious?'

and...

"Do you have any suggestions? If you organize parties or events, how do YOU get people involved in helping out?"


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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 6:39:32 AM   
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Whoa. You already know my opinion on this, right? LOL

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 7:20:27 AM   
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Send the list out ahead of time for people to sign on to. And give them blocks of time to sign up for. This way they could decide to play early and do clean up late or vice versa. But it gives them time to play, to recover and to work. I think you'll get more people willing to sign up for a two hour block than for the entire night.

And don't be shy about saying that if people don't start helping, you're not going to do all this by yourself any more.

You could also make it a requirement that members do a certain number of work hours.


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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 7:44:13 AM   
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quote:

Whoa. You already know my opinion on this, right? LOL


Well, we've never actually had the conversation but...knowing you as I do I am fairly certain what your thoughts would be.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 7:45:29 AM   
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All great ideas, thanks. I particularly like having the list available ahead of time so people can plan around it.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 7:49:54 AM   
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I know your pain.  This is exactly why event organizers burn out.  Asking for help isn't presumptuous at all.  Depending on the number of people you have, you really can't expect to do everything yourself.

What I've found has worked in the past is set up crew, clean up crew, and blocks of time organized to maintain the area during.  This keeps the duties light and allows everyone (including you) to have some fun time of their own.  Tell people that you need this right up front if you're planning a themed event, because those tend to involve more work than your average play party.  If you're talking regular play party, set the time blocks in the same increments as you do your DMs.  This way couples can pitch in with the Dominant doing the DM shift and the sub can be keeping up the refreshment table and such during the same time slot.  Make yourself a sign up sheet to pass around the munch table if you have to, but get the idea across that this isn't a one woman show.

The munch/play group that I attend now is something of a co-op private dungeon.  They set up a rotating schedule for cleaning the dungeon.  Three or four people will sign up for a duration of a month.  The month that they are volunteering for, they get a break on their entry fee to any play parties held.  That seems to be a pretty good incentive and they have plenty of folks that volunteer.


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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 8:00:16 AM   
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Most of the events I attend, they do charge an entry fee and take donations, for me it's normal to clean up after a scene but I am a bit of a worry wart this way and will also clean up before I do anything (unless I cleaned up myself, how do I know that it was done according to *my* standards and how clean I want it), unless I am specifically asked to help or if I might know a sub who could help out, I don't get involved in the planning or running of the event, because I would consider it rude to stick my nose in and get "under foot".

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 9:33:12 AM   
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Contact the Doms ahead of time and ask whether you may use their subs for help. Then use them when you need them.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 10:30:30 AM   
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Our local group has their own cleaning crew that volunteers in exchange for membership at the club. Educational events are open to the public and donations are encouraged and accepted. It serves as a reminder of their commitment to bringing notable speakers to the community without the expectation of expense for attendees. Light refreshments are served and participants often assist with setup and take down later on. Although it is a private venue, their approach and continued outreach has created a very pleasant environment.

I don't think the things you're witnessing are relegated to BDSM at all. I saw similar behavior when I participated in social and professional organizations. There was always a small group of willing hands that got involved and the remainder that benefited from their assistance or those that preferred to write a check instead. If this is something you do frequently you may consider forming an events committee that is comprised of go to individuals that share your passion and are willing to roll up their sleeves to bring them to fruition. You'll capitalize on their expertise and delegate responsibility and the workload more efficiently. Good luck.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 12:38:52 PM   
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Dig this: doms can do work too! Skeeery. The sign up sheet is good. Volunteering folks to help is even better. Channel Little Me. :). "Here, you can push this trash can around and collect empty cups and plates."

I know you're as sick of being the mule as I amN erin--the hardest part of management is delegation!

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 1:08:28 PM   
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Put a call out for service submissives whose idea of fun IS doing the work. Call those types and ask them for specific help. I'm doing the ramrod chef thing for a local event this weekend because I was asked if I'd be willing to do so. This will be my first major event since Santa died so it's a way I can ease back into larger events without him and feel in my element. But I *like* being in charge of the kitchen and making sure that everything is being taken care of and people around here know that. I will be doing the in-charge thing as an act of submission to the needs of the group.  I don't care if I get "played" with because the kitchen service thing is my fun. I even play uniform and wear a chef's jacket while I'm working!

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 3:43:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
Dig this: doms can do work too! Skeeery.


Yeah, totally. Why are subs the only people who can help out? It's everybody's party, and the subs aren't submissive to every bloody person in the place. If someone approached a Dom and I and asked me to tidy up the trash, please, while offering my metaphorical Dom another drink, I would be offended to the nth degree. Because that wouldn't be my Dom ordering me to do something in the context of our dynamic, it would be someone else assuming that because I was submissive I was a generalized service sub.

Now, granted, I always help out at parties whether I'm asked to or not. But that's because I'm a decent person, not a sub, and I'm pretty sure that lots of Doms are decent people too, and can therefore put their Domly pride aside long enough to lighten the load for whoever is being gracious enough to host a party.

If I was involved with someone and he ordered me to do this or that to help out, while he did nothing, that's a whole other thing. Because then it's apart of the dynamic and our relationship and he's purposefully giving me instructions on how I can please him by making the night easier for him. But I think everyone attending a party should start from the assumption that they ought to try to make the party a bit pleasant for the host, not just come, make a mess and leave.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 5:07:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Dig this: doms can do work too! Skeeery. The sign up sheet is good. Volunteering folks to help is even better. Channel Little Me. :). "Here, you can push this trash can around and collect empty cups and plates."



Exactly! That's one of the reasons our events are successful because they receive contributions from both ends. In my opinion that's a better utilization of ones resources than depending on the submissives to pick up the slack.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/4/2010 5:17:47 PM   
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In most of the events I had a hand in, there were usually those who lingered on the fringes looking a little lost and unsure of themselves. I usually introduced myself, and asked if they'd be willing to help out with a few things. In almost every situation, they were happy to have something to do, to feel a part of the event - and it gave them a reason to interact with others in a way they wouldn't have otherwise. Only one instance was the person rude and offended. He was an ass anyway, so pfft... Of course you can't count on there being enough people to recruit into service like that, but when you have the opportunity to do so, it is a great ice breaker for some.

Sorry, that's about all I have to offer in way of advise, aside from saying "what they said," or being redundant and repeating it.

PS - If I ever attend one of your events, feel free to put me to work I don't get out much these days, but every now and then I get the urge to make a party or event.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 4:18:20 AM   
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It's your party, your venue, your rules, if things go badly, it's you in court.
If they won't keep to your rules, fuck 'em.
They would see you in jail so why bother?

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 4:36:22 AM   
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This isn't BDSM-event specific (seeing as how I've never hosted one), but I'm always amazed by how effective having a 'special' box of chocolates for people who help out is-even if there's a box of exactly the same stuff on the table, you can say 'you have been so helpful, have one of my thank-you chocolates' and they walk away beaming like you've just given them a puppy. All people are five-year-olds at heart, I have decided.

I think it makes them feel part of a special club-within-a-club or something-a perceived privilege (even if it's almost insignificant) goes a long way towards motivating people.

Think of the sign-up sheet as pre-scene negotiation, and the chocolate as aftercare.


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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 5:37:30 AM   
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I wouldn't be offended.  Like any kind of party I attend I always offer to help.  Most times I dont ask I just help out :).  I'm nice like that

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 5:51:29 AM   
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quote:

Dig this: doms can do work too!


Oh I'm definitely not opposed to doms helping out. Generally, they are right there doing the vast majority of the set up and take down of equipment. Not so much though on keeping the buffet stocked and the bathrooms tidy.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 7:48:03 AM   
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You may be going about things the hard way. Even though some of the submissive males night not think to pitch in, they would likely appreciate it if you point out a few and give them a task to perform.

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RE: Question for BDSM event/party organizers - 8/5/2010 8:18:57 AM   
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I would be more offended if I thought you didn't want my help, than if you asked for it. I have always enjoyed volunteering at events and parties and have found it to be an excellent way to meet people. Some of the larger events have a sign up sheet ahead of time so people can see where they are needed. If you don't want to volunteer for a couple of hours during the weekend then you can pay extra and buy out of it. Everyone else puts in their time. I think it's a great idea and it seems to work well.

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