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LadySilver0523 -> RE: Discussion thread for "BDSM and bi-polar disorder" (6/8/2010 12:51:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
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ORIGINAL: PonyLiz
DesFIP- just want to remind people to be CAREFUL about all psychiatric medicines. To get FDA approval, all a psych med provider has to do is show two human trials that indicate a slight improvement over passive placebo. Most drug trials are 8 weeks or less, and there are no controls on what data the researchers can delete, hide, or ignore when they publish the results. Xanax, for example, has been on the market for 30 years (antianxiety med) based on a study showing patients had fewer panic attacks at four weeks- deleting the information that at 8 weeks, those on Xanax had more attacks than those on placebo. In independent studies with active placebo, no psychiatric med except lithium shows more than 5 or 10% improvement. Most have rebound effects worse than the original complaint- antianxiety meds cause extreme anxiety, antidepression meds cause extreme depression and insomnia etc.
If you do take meds, check the Chochrane Reviews. Pretty much everyting else published is paid for by the manufacturer.
Research your disease or issue, and look into alternative methods. Pretty much all psychiatric disorders respond better to therapy long term than drugs.
I've lost one too many friends to suicide caused by psych meds to take them lightly. Those few who would benefit need to know what they are taking and what the consequences are.
Thanks
Totally disagree. I am fourth generation mood disorder. Which means that this is a genetic, neurobiological problem not something caused by bad parenting or any other bad experiences. As such talk therapy is useless except to help deal with problems caused by having the biological disorder making it impossible to learn normal skills at appropriate times.
Honestly, people like you remind me of the early reactions to the discovery of insulin as a treatment for diabetics. It was viewed as morally reprehensible, as that it would cause people to become human chameleons and other such laughable responses.
Normal bipolars who do not receive early effective medication treatment wind up in a psych hospitals on the average of every five years. My daughter, who received early treatment has never been hospitalized. One six week outpatient program to diagnose was all that was needed. Past bipolars in my family died of suicide despite years of talk therapy.
In past generations we had at least one suicide per generation. Today, we get early treatment and everyone gets on with their lives successfully.
The fact that you do not even know that modern bipolar medications were actually developed as treatment for epilespy, which they are also very effective for, shows your lack of knowledge about the cause of this disorder. There is no possible way, after your revealed ignorance, that I can put any credibility in your opinion over some of the top medical doctors in the area of adolescent psychiatry in the nation.
... ... ... Ahem ... ... ... *clears her throat and perpares to give her opinion*
Now, let me just say a few things first;
Hun, I could not agree with you more in response to what she said about therapy working and such. And yes, I agree with the fact that, after her having said such things, I too can't not wholely give her credit with knowing anything about what we suffer through. And yes, I did just say "we".
Now, supporting what she posted above me I will say this much;
I too am a gernerational sufferer of Bi-Polar disorder. I have read what each of my medications does. I have read the side effects and talked to numerous doctors both in, and OUT of the two mental hospitals that I've been in. I was diagnosed back in 2006 and was the first known person in my immediate family to be diagnosed. I then found out that several others in different generations suffer with it that are still alive. They range from those that merely take meds that are perscribed, to those that self medicate via alcohol or other forms of illegal drugs, ect. I myself have never paid money nor had the state pay for a psychyitirst, although it's been suggested by a few that I've known. I have had the good fortune of knowing a few very reliable and trustworthy people in my life that, to this day, are still there for me when I need to talk and keep up on the latest treatments for meds that benifit people that suffer such as me. I've had a pych. eval. as of late and they won't even consider me for S.S.D.I. (Social Security Dissability Income) because they say that I'm to birght, aleart, cohearent, and smart to qualitfy. Not to mention way to young. So, I'm stuck in the system. Like a lot of people are. For a long time my parents tried to convince me that I wasn't in need of my medications. That I should do other things to self medicate instead. And due to the fact that I was stupid enough to listen, I was hospitalized again recently for a few weeks because I DIDN'T stay on my meds like I should have. Now my whole family is fucked up and they NOW realize that being on my medication is the best thing I can do for myself as well as have a stable environment to be in. (Nither of which they're willing to provide for me because, I guess, they see me as old enough to be out on my own reguardless.... Whatever... that's another matter entierly... *sighs*)
I've also read plenty. I've read books on neurochemistry of the brain and body to see what it is in me that does and does fucntion properly. I've bought and read several self help books specifically for bi-polar individuals and learned much about myself. And now that I've had serval espisodes and lived to tell the tale, I now know how to see the symptoms in myself and know when I need help.
So for those of you who think that those of us that suffer with a "mental illness" are broken, deranged, "out there", unstable, or any other such nonsensical b.s. that you can come up with, I beg to differ.
That is all I have to say about that....
.... ..................... *bows out gracefully* ................................ ...
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