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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 8:37:01 AM

DommeKeliDallas

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I have read your profile and it speaks volumes of the hateful person you truely are.
Do you do anything other than put people down...that you don't even know personally...that you don't agree with?

Also, save the profanity for those who deserve it.
Take a good look at yourself BEFORE you ridicule other people...that you don't know.
YOU are on a BDSM site LOOKING too...duh!

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 8:41:47 AM

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For what it's worth KeliDallas, Lockit is a valued member of this online community and is well respected for her thoughtfullness, compassion and loved for her loveable Lucy moments. She's also a straight up shooter who calls them how she sees them.

I personally haven't noticed any post of yours other than this thread, so I'll reserve judgement.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 8:46:00 AM

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Does Lockit do anything other than put people down? Hell yes! She's one of the kindest, most fun-filled people on these boards.

I personally have a lot of respect and affection for her.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 8:52:48 AM

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It seems to Me that you asked for opinions and you got them. If you don't like what folks have to say, don't ask.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 9:04:31 AM

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Hmmm.... new to the boards and you start out by attacking someone with lots of experience here, not to mention FRIENDS. Interesting.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 9:18:27 AM

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I think that it's a federal level crime, srsly...so not something I would "play" with lightly.

Its federal if its done over the internet because it would be considered an interstate communication. The fin-dommes like to play that game with guys online. If its done in real life, its probably a state charge but I'm not sure.

For example, you (not you specifically) post a subs name with pictures of him in a dress, with his phone number & address on the web. At the very least, you can get charged with cyberstalking. If the person receives unwanted contact it becomes criminal harassment. If you demand payment for removal for the info, its extortion. The latter crimes have a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, cyberstalking carries a max of 5.

You don't want to mess with the feds. They will make an example out of you and if you do get convicted, you will have to serve 85% of your sentence. there is no parole in the federal system.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 9:21:19 AM

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Exactly, Young! And on the interwebs you have NO idea who you are talking to.

But in a SCENE, in this digital universe, how fun to take those Compromising Photos, and assign a task to each click of the delete key!

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 10:07:28 AM

Lockit

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

I have read your profile and it speaks volumes of the hateful person you truely are.
Do you do anything other than put people down...that you don't even know personally...that you don't agree with?

Also, save the profanity for those who deserve it.
Take a good look at yourself BEFORE you ridicule other people...that you don't know.
YOU are on a BDSM site LOOKING too...duh!

Domination is about compassion, understanding, and MUTUAL RESPECT.

Well now, I haven't been called hateful in a very long time. I guess I was due. I can be sarcastic and do use humor/sarcasm, so I will give you that one. lol I too read and have read many of your posts and journal entries and I do wonder how you combine your take on the lifestyle... compassion, understanding and mutual respect when you are seeking men with money, claim to be expert in many things and yet have your own sarcasm and sadistic responses. We took a left turn on this first link where I questioned how expert you could be when you claimed you had experience with phone sex with former submissive's and were asking how to get started with some phone sex and blending it with some domination.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3205865/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3205865

Then there is this thread where we both responded. I must ask, which answer, your own or mine on the page before was more compassionate, respectful and understanding?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3216430/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3218839

Then of course there is this answer where you are responding about a stubborn submissive, where you state he would be a pile of black and blue welts or gone.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3212051/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#3214796

And the one that started it off and motivated me to go check out your profile was this one. Where you offer to do what other domina's won't, are looking for wealthy kinky men to spoil you, where you are expert at many things, are passionate in sessions and reward those wealthy men lustfully. And of course, why I have responded to you the way I have seeing as though you are expert at so much and will do far more than most domina's and yet can't figure out how to get some phone sex started as well as find that wealthy Dallas man.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3202341/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3202341

I am not sure what you read in my profile that says I am hateful unless you mean that comment about not calling me a goddess until lightening came from my fingertips and struck them on their sorry ass. Or maybe it was the journal entry about the scammer who thought I would be interested in emailing him at the address outside CM that he so kindly provided me after telling me he was far over six feet tall and six hundred pounds. I admit I did refer to his size being ape-like.

Yes, I am here and I can be a royal bitch sometimes. I never said I wasn't. But I call them like I see them and I would say to you that I see bdsm, the lifestyle, people and life differently than you do. I don't see dollar signs when I see people and relationships, I don't judge a persons worth by dollar signs and I don't claim to be expert and willing to lustfully reward those who spoil me, while asking how to do certain things that are clearly not rocket science to someone who is such an expert. So we will have to just accept that we are coming from different places and both of us can be a bitch from time to time.

And I will curse whenever I wish to thank you very much and I still think there is need for a bs filter when it comes to you. I am sure your opinion of me might include a curse word or two. Now admit it, you did think at least one at some point in dealing with me. If you didn't, you are not only an expert and far above me, but a saint.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 10:21:02 AM

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That's enough back-and-forth, folks. Thread topic: financial domination/pretend blackmail.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/24/2010 1:38:59 PM

Jeffff

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I find the whole subject quite distasteful. My 20 years as a domme has lead me to believe that financial domination always ends badly.

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Btw, I once mentored Lockit, she makes me proud!

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/26/2010 6:37:02 AM

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I tend to agree Jeffff (on financial domination) here and will go further and say that most on this site catering to such things are out for a quick buck and nothing more. There was a post back in 07 http://www.collarchat.com/m_1411607/mpage_1/tm.htm on the "Ask a sub/slave" forum and not one sub/slave responded with a; "Yes I love that sort of thing", answer. I have no problem with someone being a Pro Domme, at least its up front, but the Financial Domme just sounds like a lazy Pro Domme, money for nothing.

On the black mail issue, I would agree with most general replies here. This is the digital age and I wouldn't play with fire legally speaking. If they want a chance of getting caught task them with leaving some BDSM hardware somewhere their wife may find it for a specific amount of time. Least this way if they get caught maybe it would open a healthy discussion in their marriage.

P.S. One thing I wish CM could do is to add a tag to profiles separating those who seek money (for their participation in these activities) from those here for totally personal reasons. It sure would make the search function on this site more useful.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/26/2010 7:45:23 AM

MistressRoux

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I don't see this as an issue for a pro, but personally, I wouldn't let it spill over to private life because I don't enjoy it. Is it right or wrong? Well, it's consensual and no one's getting hurt. If both parties are on the same page, I don't see why it should concern the rest of us.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/26/2010 7:57:31 AM

LadyNTrainer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRoux

I don't see this as an issue for a pro, but personally, I wouldn't let it spill over to private life because I don't enjoy it. Is it right or wrong? Well, it's consensual and no one's getting hurt. If both parties are on the same page, I don't see why it should concern the rest of us.

While that would be nice if it were true, the reality is that pros need to be more concerned than anyone else for the legal risks because real money changes hands. That's worth a felony rap if anyone involved in the situation (eg, the blackmail "victim's" spouse, who is by definition not a consenting player) finds out and complains to the authorities. And all that takes is the client being indiscreet or dumb about his passwords, which is pretty sadly common.

You go ahead and play if you want to, but I'm personally gonna pass on the 10 year nonconsensual bondage scenes. I might use this theme here and there in my private life where everything is a made-up fantasy with roleplaying characters, but being involved in a "blackmail" scenario with a client where real money changes hands is way too legally risky.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/26/2010 8:02:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Devoid4u
P.S. One thing I wish CM could do is to add a tag to profiles separating those who seek money (for their participation in these activities) from those here for totally personal reasons. It sure would make the search function on this site more useful.

While I'd voluntarily wear the tag, I think it might be misleading, particularly with regard to my participation in the forums. Also, if the site accepts responsibility for keeping track of such things, they become to some extent legally liable for these activities, which is probably not a desirable outcome. Nice idea, poor implementation possibilities in the real world.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/26/2010 1:58:52 PM

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Good point, it would probably have to be a user driven feedback system to circumvent such liability. Anyway I know it's just wishful pondering on my part.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/31/2010 8:00:19 AM

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I've never really been into blackmail, but I am very much into financial domination. I know some dommes engage in consensual blackmail, where they have the slave sign a contract agreeing to the blackmail so they are protected.
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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/31/2010 8:17:54 AM

BitaTruble

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

Some of my submissive pets, like to be pretend blackmailed to expose teir naughty ways to their mates.
This is really fun, BUT, they must initially KNOW that this is PRETEND.

Just relax and ENJOY this past time.
Your thoughts?

I've always been a big fan of mind fucks and this falls into that category in my opinion. It's one of those.. whatever floats your boat.. sort of things. I don't see a thing wrong with it but not something that would, personally, interest me. Just relax and enjoy.. yea, that works. :D

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 5/31/2010 9:53:53 AM

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quote:

I've always been a big fan of mind fucks and this falls into that category in my opinion. It's one of those.. whatever floats your boat.. sort of things. I don't see a thing wrong with it but not something that would, personally, interest me. Just relax and enjoy.. yea, that works. :D

I too am a tremendous advocate of mind fucks in a host of different venues and see them as a compliment when imaginative and creative especially when well executed in a time extended environment. But I fear the very word mind fuck itself has taken on a stereotypical dollar generating understanding that diminished the talent and creativeness once associated with it.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 6/1/2010 7:06:33 AM

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I appreciate your input.
This "role-play" could be as simple as..."if you aren't a good boy and do as you are told, I am going to take naked pictures and show them to your friends at work".
It is NOT a crime, or against the law.
It isn't REAL.
BOTH people KNOW this is ROLE-PLAY.

If a man puts on a gorilla costume, it doesn't make him a gorilla.

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RE: Financial Domination/Pretend Blackmail - 6/1/2010 7:13:31 AM

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quote:

Some of my submissive pets, like to be pretend blackmailed to expose teir naughty ways to their mates.
This is really fun, BUT, they must initially KNOW that this is PRETEND.

INITIALLY know it's pretend?

Does it become real over time?

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