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Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 9:21:53 AM   
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This question was prompted by a conversation I had with a friend yesterday about different types of play and the amount of satisfaction one gets from them.

Essentially, we talked about how she was often not satisfied with casual play with friends because there was something she felt she wasn't getting from it; some desire or need that wasn't being met.

    "I don't really get enough of what I want from that kind of casual, public play. It's fun now and then, but it's more *fun* rather than satisfying on a kinky level for me."

She then asked me if I am satisfied with that same kind of play. After thinking about it for a bit, I came to the conclusion that I often am, but that's because I think I have different levels of need and different expectations in different groups and with different dynamics.

I guess you could say I'm very good at compartmentalising my desires in that way.

I am quite happy to play with a friend, surrounded by a group of other friends who are laughing and joking and playing on the Wii and I'll still feel satisfied with that kind of play because that's where my level of need was at at the time.

If my level of need was greater, say, I was looking for more than just physical, sensation-play, then obviously a set-up like that wouldn't have satisfied me at all. I'd have wanted play that registered on a deeper, more emotional level in order to meet my needs.

The reason I think I can be satisfied with the former type of play quite often is because of those fluctuating need levels. Sometimes all I want is to be tied up and smacked around, and I can get that from casual play and be more than happy with it. I can walk away from a casual scene like that feeling completely satisfied.

If what I need at the time is more than that, then I will seek out play that goes deeper.

Let's pretend there's a scale of need, ranging from 1 to 10. If my desire/need is at level 5, then I will seek out play at the same level. That could be the casual, surrounded-by-friends-playing-Wii scenario I mentioned above. If I go in looking for level 5 play and I get it, then I will walk away very satisfied. If it goes too much over or too much under, then I won't be. If, however, my need is at level 10 and there is only level 5 play available, then I will probably not want to play at all, because I know my needs won't be being met. Likewise if my need is at level 2 and there is only level 10 play available, then I'll probably steer well clear.

So essentially, my question is whether you guys have fluctuating levels of need that could be met in a variety of different ways (ie: casual play with friends, casual play with strangers in a club setting, more intimate play with friends, more intimate play with romantic partners only, etc...) and if you get the same kind of satisfaction from those different types of play.
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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 10:59:49 AM   
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I certainly have differing needs on differing days. But underlying all of that is that I have zero interest in engaging in any sort of intimate activity with strangers. So whatever needs I have must be met by Carol. I'm not a sadist, but some days I just want some quick sexual release. Other days I want long, drawn out romantic evenings. On still other days I want some form of elaborate sex. But in all cases, it is only Carol that can serve that need.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 11:58:15 AM   
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Yes, I have fluctuating levels of need. However, I am rarely unsatisfied when seekng a "5" and getting a "10".

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 5:11:22 PM   
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I get zero satisfaction from casual play so I simply don't participate in it. I onlly have any interest at all because I'm in a romantic relationship with someone. But even with him my desires fluctuate depending on what's going on my life...stress, illness, time apart, etc...

Casual play though just leaves me bored and cold. I need to have that intimate long term committed feeling for someone to have any desire at all.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 5:14:28 PM   
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quote:

So essentially, my question is whether you guys have fluctuating levels of need that could be met in a variety of different ways (ie: casual play with friends, casual play with strangers in a club setting, more intimate play with friends, more intimate play with romantic partners only, etc...) and if you get the same kind of satisfaction from those different types of play.


I used to when I was younger. Now, I'm only interested in the deeper stuff. That said, I've never been into public play, but I used to do more casual play. It only satisfied the hunger for so long and then I just felt empty. So I just don't do it any more.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/19/2010 5:15:04 PM   
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I can't do casual. I have no interest in it. I need the intimate emotional connection  to be able to play. I'd rather not play or have sex at all if it isn't inside a committed relationship.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/20/2010 4:59:02 PM   
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I love casual S&M so much that I would probably gobble up a lot more of it if I could do it totally safely, totally anonymously and with very little planning or preparation.  Sometimes I wake up with "an urge" and I just want to satisfy it. It can be with a man I will never see again.  It could be something fairly minimal in intensity; I just want it, and I want it now.

Does it replace deep, emotional, intimate BDSM with a romantic partner and soul mate? Of course not.  I just like the thrill of the hunt, the process of seduction, the wondering how new prey will react.


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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/20/2010 5:06:03 PM   
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I shy away from casual play for a good reason. The people who indulge in it habitually tend to be shallow users. And the ones who were into it drove me crazy-since my only real use was as a sex toy.

Which is why the "wanting more" camp tends to avoid this sort of person. The grass will soon be greener-and they cannot be trusted.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/21/2010 12:39:41 AM   
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I get no satisfaction from casual.
For me, all of this is fulfilling a deeply sexual need and so its never about performance but more about fulfilling a deeper and more enriching experience.
With a casual player I/we don't have that intimacy or honest communication.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/21/2010 6:45:47 AM   
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For me it is apples and oranges. I don't mind public play but it isn't a mind boggling connection. For me to have that sort of connection it has to be sexual and I don't do that casually.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/21/2010 7:36:58 AM   
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My Master isn't at all masochistic, so he allows me to express that side of myself with my submissive playpartner, at public or private playparties. She isn't my girlfriend, but she is my friend, and I care about her. In the past, I've played casually when I was in between relationships, especially if I didn't feel ready to get back into a relationship yet. I still developed friendship and some emotional connection with my playpartners, rather than just going to the dungeon and playing with random strangers. Casual play generally isn't very sexual for me, it evokes other emotions.

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RE: Levels of desire/satisfaction. - 4/21/2010 8:53:44 AM   
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I think I´m reading the OP a little differently then everyone else and don´t see that it´s so much about "casual play" in the way that means with someone you´re not bonded with or in a relationship but rather casual as in not deep mind reeling, sheet ripping experience.

Even within a relationship I don´t always want play/sex to be intense... sometimes lazy morning sex is all I need,  or him grabbing me as I pass for a playful across the knee spanking, then sent on my merry way.  It can be light and fun within a relationship as well as outside it.

And of course there are those times that you want hours of intense sensation built upon sensation.... and in the case of a relationship I think it´s easier to match the level of desire to the degree of satisfaction because you read each other and know what the other needs.


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