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ownedgirlie -> Symbiosis - A Reality (4/3/2006 11:21:42 PM)
As a slave, my focus is my Master. i am about pleasing him. i am about serving him, and submitting to him in all things. my fulfillment comes from submitting to Him. i need to submit. He fills that need. He provides a place for me to be who i must be. In turn, my Master finds fulfillment and enjoyment with my submission. The more deeply i submit, the more power he feels. The more power he exercises, the more deeply i submit. i am his pleasure. He is my need. We are yin and yang, imbalanced if separated. He inspires me to develop, grow, and evolve. i inspire him to develop, grow, and evolve. There are things i never would have experienced, or even wanted to try, without Him. There are things he had no desire to experiment with until he owned me. A great definition for symbiosis that i saw is: “the intimate living together of two dissimilar organisms in a mutually beneficial relationship.” Is that not what we are? (i say “we” collectively). And if that is the case, while we continue to say D/s and M/s is all about the Master or the Dominant…it is ultimately about both, is it not? i am reflective tonight, and interested in your thoughts.

truesub4u -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/3/2006 11:28:29 PM)
It is nice to see for a change that not all have forgotten about US factor of any type of relationship. I do not feel it's all about THEM.. or ME.. but US. A Dom can't not dominate if without some to dominate. A submissive or slave can not serve if without one to serve. But TOGETHER... the growth can be amazing. (about to throw laptop out the window....lol)

BitaTruble -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/3/2006 11:39:30 PM)
Reality huh? Ok, I'll give it a shot. :) ::steps into the way-back machine:: In the beginning... Celeste said.. I want, I want, I want. Yeah, yeah.. ok.. service.. blah, blah.. when ya gonna do ME? It was NEVER about him. I wanted what I wanted.. got what I wanted and screw the Master who couldn't provide for ME and MY wants. ::getting a picture here? ::chuckles:: I knew I needed a ying for my yang.. or rather a flogger attached to an arm and a brain that knew when to swing.. and by god, better be hitting me just so, in the right places to boot! Flogger to ass, crop to ass.. yadda, yadda. Ok, fold your socks, iron your clothes.. *whatever* dude! If that's what it takes, that's what I'll do. The ultimate in hedonistic, selfish pleasure and I adored it. ::fast forward 15 years:: Met Himself.. and suddenly, it was no longer 'me'.. but 'we'. Just took the right one to bring out what was in there. Nothing magical, nothing special.. just two people who were actually in sync with one another and who were crazy enough about each other to 'want' to make things work between us, who 'wanted' to care for one another and who recognized each had the aspects the other needed to maximize the potential for happiness. Oh, the possiblities. So, end result.. it went from me, me, me.. to we, we, we.. but it was 'never' he, he, he. ::hehehe:: <-- the exception which proves the rule! Reality over.. back to moonbeams and fairy dust for me. ;) Celeste edited to add:: We've been involved in two poly relationships.. and they became a part of 'we' as well.. or, rather.. wheeeeeeeeeee. :)

MLskajira -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/3/2006 11:52:42 PM)
this girl thinks it was "i want, i want, i want" for most of us in the beginning. and you are right, bitaTruble, now it is about U/us with "He" being first. this girl thinks we (sub/slaves) are like infants in the beginning, only concerned about what "we" wanted, and as long as the one who gave it to us was in a giving mood, they were our best friends, but when the well dried, even if only for a moment, we ran to the next one who had the candy. at least this girl did. and now, after 33 years in this life, she is just now realizing the damage she may have done to some fine, kind Men through her selfishness.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/3/2006 11:59:04 PM)
Um, Celeste....hehehehe..wheeeee....you doing okay over there? LOL [:D]

RavenMuse -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 12:01:11 AM)
Two sides, but one coin! It might not work like it for some folks, but personaly I am happier when my girl is happy. Sure my needs and my pleasure come first and that fullfills some of her needs but making sure any needs that are left also get addressed from time to time Is good for her, good for US and frankly I enjoy it too g But you are definatly right, the right girl is an inspiration, she fires your imagination as well as your desires bringing you to not only want to push her bounderys but to explore your own again.[:D]

BitaTruble -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 12:02:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Um, Celeste....hehehehe..wheeeee....you doing okay over there? LOL [:D] I'm sooooo good, darlin'.. just riding my moonbeam over here. Had a tough couple of weeks and being Pisces, I need some balance, so doing some hyper-happy right about now. ;) Celeste

ownedgirlie -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 12:06:54 AM)
Aww Celeste i'm glad things are balancing. If my family doesn't balance out soon i'm going to get on my Saggitarius Centaur and ride away!!

CERCKL -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 1:01:13 AM)
When it is working, it is very much balance. I don not 'need' anyone to complete who I am...but I find balance, My core with she who belongs to Me...her desire to grow, her asking questions keeps Me learning, staying aware of My own Self...her desire to know more spiritually makes Me stay aware of My own development...her needs feed Me as much as pleasing Me feeds her... But I am in a morose place tonight, so I will shut up. C

twicehappy -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 3:19:00 AM)
Wonderfully said......As my Mistress once described it, Master and she may be lords of the manor, but without slaves and subs to fill and run the castle, it is but a hollow dusty shell. What would they be lords of? One needs the other to make the whole. It is undenialably about each of us growing, evolving, and receiving that which we require to be complete.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 5:52:55 AM)
While I'm not about the need and completeness and all that...but fulfilling relationships take everyone involved in them actively working together and fulfilled together. It's not about anyone's happiness/fulfillment OVER anothers (which is why poly Ds relationships find it so hard sometimes), it's about the process of finding fulfillment together.

ExistentialSteel -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 6:26:38 AM)
It is a synergistic effect. Alone, each of our values may be one. Put a Dom and sub together and the ones add up to three in a magical, new math. We are stronger than the sum of our separate parts. When a Dom and sub reach a point where the connection is made of invisible threads of precious metals, it is the supernatural.

MHOO314 -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 7:42:10 AM)
<smiles>--what a great OP ownedgirlie--IMHEO, it is indeed about the U/us--so many good quotes in the responses, its hard to pick and choose---(and if I forget credit, don't anyone get offended)--I think one mentioned it was the magical math of Three--I love that statement, for that is indeed what happens---and in My opinion it happens whether it is casual play or a relationship--the difference is the time and depth invested--but I digress-- I have often stated that when two people come together, each has needs and expectations--to deny that fact up front is foolish--whether one ends up serving and nothing more---that in itself is a need that calls to be met-- quote: In turn, my Master finds fulfillment and enjoyment with my submission. The more deeply i submit, the more power he feels. The more power he exercises, the more deeply i submit. i am his pleasure. He is my need. We are yin and yang, imbalanced if separated. These are the feelings I have with the boy ( I will be curious to see what he writes...)--a dear friend once told Me, its the chemistry of the dynamic, the dance of the dynamic that makes it what it is---until I met him, I had not fully felt or realized that D/dance--W/we inspire each other---for without him, I am another Mistress seeking as he is a sub trying to find a place--but together--we are one--strong as individuals, but together we are the third dynamic---he has given Me purpose--he chose to submit to Me, he chose to give Me power, the more I take, the deeper his submission--the more we are together, the more he learns Me and how to please Me in so many ways- the more I see of him, the beauty if what he ism what he needs and how I can fulfill that---the hardest is now that we are apart--for a large part of him is attached to serving Me--being with Me, near Me to feel, express, soak up what W/we are.--and damn it, its hard for Me too, the closeness, the special intimacy--and that goes well beyond the sexual---as you said the ying to the yang--the O/oneness. When it is right, it is indeed a symbiosis--it is the dance of the D/dynamic.

Littlepita -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 8:24:17 AM)
My Dom and I are very much about the We in our relationship. Since we are embarking on this journey together for the first time we are very aware of each others strengths and weaknesses. We now have a mantra we say every morning to each other that sets the tone for what we are all about. I wouldn't want life to be about me and I know he doesn't want that for himself. It is all about Us and it is wonderful!

truesub4u -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 9:56:33 AM)
Throws a grannysmith at Owned... and [sm=hello.gif].......<roflmao>

MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 11:27:16 AM)
Thinks a D/s, M/s Relationship w/out U/us in it would get very old & boring very quick... I personally think where both parties work towards the same ends keeps Both the Dom & slave sharp & envigorated.

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 11:54:54 AM)
Its definitely about both.

truesub4u -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 12:30:34 PM)
You know Owned... last night I was tired... and know I could of come up with a better response to your post.... and earlier I was in need of caffine real badly... lol. But as you know from our conversation last night, I'm thinking it's time I give up and forget about the needs and wants of being submissive. Though I am sure the need will always be there, my want is slowly dying. Day in and Day out... on line, off line, the Doms I know have seem to turn to trolls. Everything being about them and them only. I'm not interrested in collarings, weddings, live in, but yet, that's all that's important to most. But because I won't think about consideration, I'm being too selfish. I'm not being the submissive I should be. But I'm not going to run out and let the first Dom that offers a collar, or wedding band claim victory in less than a week or even month of knowing each other. Because to me all I see is them thinking of THEM.. and not US in this. Now I know others will say.. but Jessica all you are thinking about is YOU and not the US factor either.... probably so.. but my US factor isn't just ME... but me and mine. (unmentionables) I let them know up front, and they're all... Oh I know.. I undertand... and then BAMM... with in days... they're trying to collar me... or make me swear to off everyone else I know.. and I'm not gonna drop my family and friends like a hot pan. Or I get the ..... you never have time because of reality to be my slut... well hell.. excuse me for telling you up front... Reality does interfer and comes first and foremost. LOL it gets kinda funny... I sit at home (work or be lazy) all day while school is in... but others have to work... their reality is as much as an interferance during the day as my reality is at night while home needing or wanting my attention. It actually gets kind funny. Guess this could fall under the ME factor as well. From both sides. Speaking of reality.. they just walked in... have a good week all.... hugggggggggsssssss

Submotive -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 1:01:40 PM)
quote: In turn, my Master finds fulfillment and enjoyment with my submission. The more deeply i submit, the more power he feels. The more power he exercises, the more deeply i submit. i am his pleasure. He is my need. We are yin and yang, imbalanced if separated. He inspires me to develop, grow, and evolve. i inspire him to develop, grow, and evolve. There are things i never would have experienced, or even wanted to try, without Him. There are things he had no desire to experiment with until he owned me. Yes, yes, yes and yes again. Without caring for the O/other it's just another pleasure of life - the feel of the flogger or paddle, whatever - but with Him - OMG - knowing how my submission affects Him and Him understanding on a deeper and deeper level how His Power and control affect me. The dynamic drives U/us deeper and deeper into more intimacy, honesty and intensity. The reciprocity is so instantaneous that there is no space between giving and receiving for me. i must honestly say it has never been totally about the Dom and in actuality it isn't now - it is about the U/us.

Vancouver_cinful -> RE: Symbiosis - A Reality (4/4/2006 5:03:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie A great definition for symbiosis that i saw is: “the intimate living together of two dissimilar organisms in a mutually beneficial relationship.” Is that not what we are? (i say “we” collectively). I think that's a beautiful way to put it. I find it hard sometimes to get people to understand that my being submissive doesn't mean I am a sacrificer. I submit because it fills a need in me, and I only submit when it fills a need in the other person too. Symbiotic is a great way to describe it. Cin

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