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Termyn8or -> RE: Now this is scary! (3/25/2010 1:04:27 PM)
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"I believe there are nanny states in existance, why do people not simply go there. England, Canada, France and other places seem nice in the brochures"
I guess they could and probably should. The people who set out to discover and conquer new lands probably saw it coming. It was a damn shame when they took the guns in Austrailia, they have crocs there. But they too could rebel (up until the guns were gone) against UK rule. The fact is that through their actions they have declared themselves an enemy. In fact in US law embodied in the revisions to the Trading With The Enemy Act it is clearly stated. All we have on land is their treasure and all we have at sea is their bounty. It's not hard to look it up.
A Russian leader before the fall uf the USSR stated that Americans will accept socialism with open arms, without a shot being fired. Something like that. He was right, but by what method did it happen ? I believe it was a plan, well thought out and well executed, and is worldwide actually. This country was intended to be the exception, and it was for a time to some extent.
However there is a class of people in this world who are addicted to power, and an addict is insatiable. Originally the Constitution provided sort of a wall which should serve to keep the megalomaniacs at bay, but they are persistent and we have not been. The have been chipping away at the true nature and intent of this land for a long time now, actually since around the time of the civil war. If people would have been diligent, things would be different. There would be no healthcare debate, you either have the money or not. Market forces would apply. However there is what's known as insurance, which at the optimum spreads the risk among many in case of a problem. A fine idea in it's true form, but like government, corrupt people corrupt the whole idea.
Any social system is vulnerable to abuse, just like the strongest Man in the world could be strangled while he sleeps. We started with a republic, people don't even call it that anymore, they call it a democracy. But the elections are tightly controlled, just like in the countries occupied by "them".
In a way insurance is socialism. Perhaps voluntary and limited socialism, but if it walks like a duck .......
I've said it before, if I were to insure you against, let's say death. It would be in my best interest to do all I can to keep you alive, and shouldn't that be my right ? What if I don't want to insure Evil Knevil ? Or if I did I insist he stopped his showman antics because they are too dangerous.
In that way, any time you share reponsibility you give up rights. The problem comes when the profiteers start operating the system.
In closing I will state that I think this thread was not named correctly. Scary implies that something bad will happen, but I assert that it already has for the most part, so what is so scary about what is real now ?
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