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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

the purposed changes will drastically affect the ability for kinky folk to get help when needed and greatly increase the medical stigma of fetish activities.

(snip)

Also, the NSCF has a final goal of removing paraphillias from the DSM all together. This would undoubtedly eliminate a patient's ability to seek counseling and help with shame associated around sexual activity.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Using FR

This has the typical stigma of a label though. If billed as such does it become a pre-existing condition ?

And there is a VERY dangerous question involved here. If a kinkster is into a rape fantasy and cannot fulfill it, could it turn into a rape reality ? I mean general let's say you like to tie Women up and play with them. Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you need to find girls that like to be tied up, but what if you can't find one ?

But according to this, that distinction is not made, so you get a label I guess. It may be more important than it looks. Medical records are no longer private. Unless you pay for everythig ala carte', you have no privacy, and things like this whether or not they can be used in court, can be used in an investigation. I know that sounds shady, but not everyone who desires privacy is a maniac and ready to do some heinous act. However the court system sees it differently. All they know is the rulings. If convicted of something you are presumed guilty, no matter if you got hit hard and had to take a plea bargain or even took the rap for someone else. All they know is the record, and this is part of the record. What alot of people don't know is that even if something is inadmissable in court as it relates to a prosecution or defense, the judge can still see it. For example your juvenile records are supposedly sealed, but they know. The only difference is that when you turn eighteen all the sudden you have no priors.

So a sexual proclivity is now defined as three times in the last six months. Something like drunk driving, if you get busted three times in this state within five years you are labelled "habitual". They really are reaching beyond their grasp here. But then that is their proclivity, to label us and pigeonhole us into nice neat little categories.

Well it doesn't work and it never did. But that doesn't change one's stance when faced with legal problems. Believe me I know. I've been in too many judge's chambers to not know that. They get alot more information than most people realize, and if this becomes part of that information the results could be quite stark.

Sometimes the things that don't seem all that important at first come back and bite one in their butt, and hard.

T

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Fukin,

I am thinking that some of these girls need the dogshit slapped outta them and then fucked against their will. is there a number for that?

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

As a psych student, we're taught to treat individuals because of what is listed in the DSM and how. Remove a listing all together in the DSM, and students are no longer taught how to treat certain issues.

Please consider, something is not known as a "disorder" and suddenly gets added to medical files and insurance claims as a "disorder"...how does that not increase stigmas?

boi

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ORIGINAL: kajiraforoffline

The ones who are supposed to be kink-friendly don't seem to be.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: kajiraforoffline

The ones who are supposed to be kink-friendly don't seem to be.

Exactly what makes you believe they should be "kink-friendly?"