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RE: Devotion? - 1/2/2010 7:28:43 PM

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Well, in our relation (Femdom 24/7 husband/slave) I want my slave to get to know my habits, my prefered flavors, the way to please and surprise me... I need my slave to free up time so I can enjoy myself. Of cource, it's another kind of Femdom but I can send my slave out for a waffle at any time of the day or night, can trow him out of bed because I need a drink, and he loves to serve because it makes me happy.

Devotion could mean exactly that: I'm the center of the universe for my slave. And we wre happy about that.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/2/2010 7:36:56 PM

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First off thankyou for replying.
You say:

My devotion and loyalty stems not from submission but from the love and respect that I have for him.

Yes well he and I (the one I'm talking about above) finally told each other we love the other....

I had no such devotion to Master A all those years ago nor loyalty to him although I was always obedient.

Yes I've been there. Obedient when he wanted me but no loyalty. Actually loyalty was never expected.

.............Himself has proved worthy of my devotion .. as I have proved worthy of his and it is one of the elements which makes something like poaching non-existent in our world.

Ye I'm hearing you. This has been preoccupying me for six months of mt life and what happened over new year finally made me realise it was not going to work despite protestations of love...simply becuase he sees devotion as one sidied. I would get what I was given I was told but he expected devotion from me.

Being devoted to him doesn't make the submission to his desires any harder nor does it make them any easier .. it's a side benefit that allows us to maximize longevity, continue to communicate under pretty much any circumstance and to believe we have a chance to grow even older together walking the same direction. So far, so good. :)

It..he...me...broke my devotion because of what happened. He announced his relationship with another submissive on line without even telling me of her existence and still expected my devorion. And I have to agree devotion didn't make my submission at all easy under that particular circumstance. Something had to give.
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RE: Devotion? - 1/2/2010 7:37:37 PM

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For a lot of subs you cant have devotion without love. How does one expect to recieve "instant devotion"?
Just add water and stir?

Doesnt devotion like trust have to be earned and not just "expected"?

My father loved my mother. He was also devoted to her. This was evident with time, especially as her caretaker and after 49 years of marriage it was evident. I dont even expect that kind of devotion without time and maturity.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/2/2010 8:00:50 PM

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You ask the toughest questions, Pirnsexx! Welcome back, by the way. :) And I'll attempt to tackle this one tomorrow or at a time when my brain is less addled, whichever comes last. ;)

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RE: Devotion? - 1/2/2010 8:20:15 PM

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You ask the toughest questions, Pirnsexx! Welcome back, by the way. :) And I'll attempt to tackle this one tomorrow or at a time when my brain is less addled, whichever comes last. ;)

Please dont take that long?

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 2:54:33 AM

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What responsibilities, what expertise, what experience does a dominant need to have in order to 'get' devotion?

Qualities that mean he is a good option for you - which I suppose is underpinned by what you need from a relationship. A fairly standard answer - though I'd say it's a given that life is about opportunities/choices/risks and relationships are no different - hence the standard answer.

It boils down to the value you place on certain qualities.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 5:11:28 AM

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I give devotion to Master for one simple reason...I love and care for him. It would be the same for anyone I care and love. I give them my love, my devotion, my time because that's what people do for each other who care and love each other.

Has nothing to do with d/s, nothing to do with bdsm, nothing to do with experience but everything to do with love and caring.

I absolutely agree with you here...I think it's that simple.
And so I'm sticking to my first reaction to the guy who expected devotion (devotional submission?)....it was time to call bull shit.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 5:18:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

For a lot of subs you cant have devotion without love. How does one expect to recieve "instant devotion"?
Just add water and stir?

Doesnt devotion like trust have to be earned and not just "expected"?

My father loved my mother. He was also devoted to her. This was evident with time, especially as her caretaker and after 49 years of marriage it was evident. I dont even expect that kind of devotion without time and maturity.

And here's another example...of REAL life taken outside of the context of bdsm...and yes devotioon within the context of a long term relationship and marriage that raised children and survived 'for better or worse'. Devotoon sure gets bandied around...his was an example of perjoration as far as I am concerned.
I hope all your memories of your parents serve you well, youy find comfort and strength in them.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 5:46:27 AM

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Devotion to me seems akin to worship. It is not something permitted in this relationship. He saw a tendency in me in the beginning to see him with stars in my eyes and put an end to that immediately. He has feet of clay and if I gave him devotion, then inevitably when he made a mistake I would be shocked and horrified. Since I was forced to view him realistically, that kind of reaction to his mistakes doesn't occur.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 7:57:32 AM

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Devotion to me seems akin to worship. It is not something permitted in this relationship. He saw a tendency in me in the beginning to see him with stars in my eyes and put an end to that immediately. He has feet of clay and if I gave him devotion, then inevitably when he made a mistake I would be shocked and horrified. Since I was forced to view him realistically, that kind of reaction to his mistakes doesn't occur.

That's wisdom indeed. sadly lacking in some.

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 2:48:08 PM

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I worship, and am devoted to M. He didn't ask for it and he didn't *expect* it, either. He IS on a pedestal as far as I'm concerned and the passing decade has only proved that he deserves to be perched there in the centre of my little herb garden.

As far as I'm concerned he's there for good reason. There's always the chance that he'll plummet like a stone one day......but I'm not holding my breath.

I do have a bit of a crick in my neck these days though ....lol

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 4:26:52 PM

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I think he belongs up there, but he doesn't so I can't do it. Besides after a day doing laundry with innumerable extra trips gathering socks abandoned all over the house, I'm not that sure he does belong up there. lol

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RE: Devotion? - 1/3/2010 7:48:58 PM

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Was he offering devotion since he wanted it?

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RE: Devotion? - 1/4/2010 7:30:45 AM

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Thanks for all your replies.
I had a very lucky escape.
Anyone who expects blind denotion gets just that...
and I'm into taking off my blindfolds these days.
Prin

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