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jlf1961 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/23/2016 1:21:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I admit once more, that I refuse to be called human.
I admit after travelling around this rock, watching the news, I have seen what humans due to each other.



I would agree whole-heartedly,except that - as humans - we have a responsibility to strive to change what is wrong.



Greedy, short of wiping out at least 2/3's of the human population, the only viable solution is a mass extinction event.



Tangelo -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/23/2016 8:01:13 PM)



. . .I admit I am among some very warm and hear-touching people here. . .and I thank you.



GreedyTop -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/23/2016 8:21:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I admit once more, that I refuse to be called human.
I admit after travelling around this rock, watching the news, I have seen what humans due to each other.



I would agree whole-heartedly,except that - as humans - we have a responsibility to strive to change what is wrong.



Greedy, short of wiping out at least 2/3's of the human population, the only viable solution is a mass extinction event.




I'm an optimist.



jlf1961 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/23/2016 8:24:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I admit once more, that I refuse to be called human.
I admit after travelling around this rock, watching the news, I have seen what humans due to each other.



I would agree whole-heartedly,except that - as humans - we have a responsibility to strive to change what is wrong.



Greedy, short of wiping out at least 2/3's of the human population, the only viable solution is a mass extinction event.




I'm an optimist.



So were the builders of the titanic, just saying.



WhoreMods -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 6:13:40 AM)

To be fair, the Titanic wouldn't have sank if that stupid bastard Smith hadn't backed it away from the iceberg it collided with.
Small wonder the tool went down with his ship: they'd have lynched him if he'd made it back to dry land...



needlesandpins -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 6:56:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I admit it that I was in a near head-on collision on Monday.
The airbag deployed and yet I still managed to hit my head on the windshield.
No concussion, no broken bones but I am very bruised and sore.
I admit it: I know I am lucky.


I admit that I am glad to read that things were not worse for you. Having had the same happen with myself earlier in the year you have my full thoughts. I hope you have a speedy recovery xx

Needles



needlesandpins -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 7:04:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Thanks ladies n gents, we heard today that his sister has passed too. That has been harder on us today,
The funeral is tuesday in the UK and we cant get there.



I admit that I was sad to read this yesterday after everything else. I was celebrating Mabon last night, as a Pagan, for the Equinox, so when I lit my candles for those lost, and those needing thoughts I kept you, and yours in mind xx

Needles



jlf1961 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 8:14:47 AM)

Lucy sorry for your losses.








angelikaJ -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 2:40:19 PM)

I appreciate everyone's good thoughts and wishes!



jlf1961 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 3:15:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

I appreciate everyone's good thoughts and wishes!


you are always in my good thoughts, angelika

I admit I reserve most of my bad good thoughts for submissive irish lasses



GreedyTop -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 9:38:45 PM)

I admit that today I had to unfriend a guy from FB, someone I've known for 20+ years. Apparently, he is offended by MY being offended by the systemic racism that seem to be rampant in the legal system here - from police to courts. Another unarmed black man has been killed.

I'd say I am sad about severing a friendship, but I'm not. HE obviously wasn't the kind if person I thought he was.

I *am* sad about the disillusionment.



dcnovice -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:00:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

To be fair, the Titanic wouldn't have sank if that stupid bastard Smith hadn't backed it away from the iceberg it collided with.
Small wonder the tool went down with his ship: they'd have lynched him if he'd made it back to dry land...

True. She'd likely have survived a head-on collision. But the effort to turn sliced her side open.

Bruce Ismay, the White Star exec who may have pressured Smith to more-than-safe speed, survived and came to regret it pretty quickly.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:06:54 PM)

so, apart from the lack of lifeboats, the watertight bulkheads that only came halfway up the vessel, being built of the wrong kind of steel and following unwritten company instructions from White Star to make time at all cost, it was all Smith's fault I guess. He didn't back away from the lifeboat; the ship hit it a glancing blow because the officer of the watch tried to miss it ...................a perfectly natural thing to do unless you are totally stupid or have a death wish. The ship was ripped open and kept moving. There was nothing else the officer, the captain, jesus christ on a bicycle, or the clown from the peanut gallery on here who offers such spurious advice, could have done



BamaD -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:16:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

so, apart from the lack of lifeboats, the watertight bulkheads that only came halfway up the vessel, being built of the wrong kind of steel and following unwritten company instructions from White Star to make time at all cost, it was all Smith's fault I guess. He didn't back away from the lifeboat; the ship hit it a glancing blow because the officer of the watch tried to miss it ...................a perfectly natural thing to do unless you are totally stupid or have a death wish. The ship was ripped open and kept moving. There was nothing else the officer, the captain, jesus christ on a bicycle, or the clown from the peanut gallery on here who offers such spurious advice, could have done

Recently a group of scientests determined (to their satisfaction) that if they had seen the iceberg 30 seconds (maybe a little as 15) sooner they would have turned enough to avoid the kind of damage they took and survived.
The interesting thing was they also said that had they seen it the same period later than they did they would have struck it head on and only the compartments with the full watertight bulkheads would have been damaged, and again they would have survived. One minute cost over a thousand lives.



BamaD -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:18:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

so, apart from the lack of lifeboats, the watertight bulkheads that only came halfway up the vessel, being built of the wrong kind of steel and following unwritten company instructions from White Star to make time at all cost, it was all Smith's fault I guess. He didn't back away from the lifeboat; the ship hit it a glancing blow because the officer of the watch tried to miss it ...................a perfectly natural thing to do unless you are totally stupid or have a death wish. The ship was ripped open and kept moving. There was nothing else the officer, the captain, jesus christ on a bicycle, or the clown from the peanut gallery on here who offers such spurious advice, could have done

Actually the first few bulkheads did go all the way up, but the gash extended one or maybe two compartments beyond them.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:31:22 PM)

Quite a way along the ship Bama and like I said. She didn't ram that berg and stop there, she hit it a glancing blow at speed ( about 21 knots I believe) and there was no holding her against the berg to plug the hole. It wasn't going to happen. The officer of the watch did all he could and what he was trained to do. Captain Smith came on the bridge immediately and took charge. The W/O sent out the NEW distress signal. The passengers were all ordered on deck and the lifeboats, such as they were, were lowered. What else did WM want them to do ? Fucking levitate ????



Dvr22999874 -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/24/2016 10:42:15 PM)

The great mistake Smith made was making time, as per the company's instructions. They were never written down but every skipper on White Star knew them and followed them. If you told the company not to be stupid or to go and fuck themselves, you would be working as a galley boy on the shit-barge out of Woolwich outflow the next week. The company directors must shoulder most of the blame but they never would or will. The ship was travelling at speed and in mist/fog. The lookout didn't have the binoculars that had been indented for and could see little past the foc'sle. There were many small things ( if you can call them that) that built up into the disaster it became.
Now ask me about the seamen's wages. Bastard fucking shipping companies !!!



dcnovice -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/25/2016 8:38:50 AM)

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Now ask me about the seamen's wages. Bastard fucking shipping companies !!!

I admit it I don't know a lot about this, but my impression is that that they got shafted.

I admit I recently read Titanic Survivor, a memoir by stewardess Violet Jessop.

I admit I was stunned to learn that crew members who survived a sinking were generally not paid for time after the ship submerged!

I admit they made an exception for Titanic crew.



dcnovice -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/25/2016 8:46:29 AM)

I admit Steven Biel's Down with the Old Canoe: A Cultural History of the Titanic Disaster includes a 1912 poem from an African-American newspaper about the push to memorialize the sinking.

A monument for millionaires
A monument for snobs.
No marble shaft for the men on the craft,
Who simply worked at their jobs.

The owner of gold and the wearer of lace
Is the thing that determines a hero's place.
But I'll sing a song to right the wrong,
I'll sing of the loyal crew.

In the hold of the ship, who never knew
How the hand of death did fall
Of the band that played while the good ship swayed
Unmindful of the call.

I'll drop a tear to the boys in the hold,
Who never knew and never were told
Who lived alone by the engine's throbs
And died as they lived—at work on their jobs.

I'll speak a word and breathe a prayer,
For those now drifting with the tide
Here's a cheer, and a sob
And a tear o'er their ocean bier
To the men who died with their jobs.

M.L. Clawson, "Fair Play"



catize -> RE: I Admit It I........ (9/25/2016 4:02:40 PM)

I admit that I have not posted on this thread before.

I admit my 90 y.o. father died this past Thursday and we held his memorial service this afternoon

I admit I didn't know how many friends he had made in his long lifetime

I admit it has been a long and stressful week and I plan on doing stuff for just me tomorrow



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