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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 7:27:45 AM

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cant believe no one has yet answered "no i-deer"

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 7:29:17 AM

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 7:47:49 AM

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cant believe no one has yet answered "no i-deer"

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You stole my thunder. Damn the time difference!!

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 7:59:46 AM

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How do they know?

Theories?

I have got a hypothesis; not a scientific one, though, but a spiritual one.

My i-deer is that they are in tune with the Divine. Being prey animals, they want to be safe from predators and the Divine grants their wish, causing them to be where the hunters are not.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 8:23:46 AM

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can't believe no one has yet answered "no i-deer"
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Oh Lordie.....even for a pun that was a stinker.......funny, but a stinker!

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 9:03:27 AM

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reason is they start hearing and seeing ALOTTA motherfuckers in the woods that were not there yesterday or the day before. They don't smoke cigarrettes, drink whiskey, or eat bacon or any number of other things you know, and they are mostly quiet and watch and listen alot.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 9:56:45 AM

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People are in the woods year round here, though, Ron. Different people, I grant you, once hunting season starts. Perhaps that's it.

I get a charge out of the "outdoorsmen" who ask me (I'm in the woods everyday--though I'm careful where and when once hunting season starts) "So...you seen any deer?" Like LaTigresse said, there are deer everywhere--I startle some by accident almost every day, including hunting season. Pick a direction and get off the trail/road, Mr. "Woodsman." [There are also plenty of real, seasoned, experienced hunters along with the once a year woodsies, of course]

Unfortunately, more and more of the unsuccessful clueless turn to hunting illegally, both from the road and at night. Dangerous fucking bastards.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 9:57:05 AM

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Deer do not know what cars are... so when they bolt it is a gut reaction- after being stunned by headlights.

I missed one by a fraction of a second on i80 at 3 am- a few years back. Before I could press the brake it was at my hood... at 70 mph. It was a lucky day for sure.

Time to thin out the herd.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 9:59:34 AM

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People are in the woods year round here, though, Ron. Different people, I grant you, once hunting season starts. Perhaps that's it.

Tal Tim,

Well, not so many at 4am waking them up year round, clanking all sorta shit around like they are being sneaky.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 10:15:14 AM

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Tal Tim,

Well, not so many at 4am waking them up year round, clanking all sorta shit around like they are being sneaky.

Yes, that's true--hikers, runners and mountain bikers certainly move about the terrain differently (and more silently).

Regarding "like they are being sneaky," a funny story--

First, all the hunters go to the same places, wondering why there are no deer. Hello. But during rifle season, it's helpful, because I deliberately go where the hunters aren't--both for my own safety and so I don't interfere with their hunt (which I respect).

So one day, I see a teenager coming out of the woods on a usually untraveled trail (not so near a road). When I ask if he's the only one, if he's seen anyone, he doesn't answer, like he's protecting some big secret. Finally I get out of him that his brother is coming shortly. I take the trail branch heading the other direction.

My dog is all excited, pulling (she's in a harness on a 26' retractable lead). Two miles up the trail, I find why (she likes people)--a hunter standing behind a large tree at the edge of a forest patch clear of underbrush. She jumps up before I see him. He bitches that now he has her scent, and that I've ruined his hunt. I decide not to mention that she smelled him two miles away, instantly (or his trail perhaps), and doubtless so have the deer. He's not the kid's brother, though. Knows nothing about that. Hasn't seen anyone else.

As the trail eventually loops back, at the upper edge of the forest patch clear of underbrush (allowing for long sight lines), I come across a very polite, civil, patient hunter behind another tree--the older brother. He asks me if I'm the last one; I tell him about the other hunter and point to his general location.

I continue on my way, past the clear patch and around the dense brush part of the forest--where I see not one, but two deer bolt as we approach, further into the dense brush.

As if sneaky indeed.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 12:03:44 PM

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Perhaps they use a deer-version of One Hundred and One Dalmatians' twilight bark, where the dogs share gossip by barking all across England.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 2:02:49 PM

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It's the same every year.

Last night, and for night after night previously, I saw dozens and dozens of deer everywhere on my way back from the daily romp through the woods with my dog.

Tonight, on the eve of bow season--not a single deer to be seen anywhere.

How do they know? No one's got off a shot yet. People camp and hike around here year round (so it can't just be that they smell people). Yet, like every year, with the hunters camped out (I don't count the idiots cruising in their pickups looking for where the deer might be when they are in fact everywhere--and the deer previously ignored the traffic), ready for dawn, literally thousands of deer (here) have vanished (yes, I know they're really still here).

How do they know?

Theories? Anybody know of any reliable research?

Just like all the Presidents birthdays...it's on the calendar.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/18/2009 2:13:51 PM

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Men in hunting gear SEXY. The weapon a phallic symbol.

They look so happy when they score a buck too!

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 7:07:12 AM

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When I hunted years ago, We would say that the deer dig a hole in the ground, crawl into the hole and pull the hole in after them.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 7:13:55 AM

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Time to thin out the herd.

now Hunky...the Pennsylvania game commission has implemented birth control injections to the does (i am not kidding)

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 7:15:22 AM

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Or they find a herd of cattle or horses and hang out in the middle. Every year I have a doe that hangs out in my horse pasture during hunting season. Usually with one or two of her babies that year.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 7:28:16 AM

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many hunters ,wear all the cammo ,paint their face with cammo colors , splash deer urine on their boots , sit in a tree stand ,then smoke cigs and drink beer all day wondering why they dont see deer,

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 9:19:55 AM

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Never understood tree stands. Want to hunt? Go find the prey.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 2:12:35 PM

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That's funny LaT. My mother said that they'd see deer hiding in the herds of cattle and horses when they were out in the big truck....it always seemed to tickle her funny bone that they were that smart. She actually stopped once and got pictures.....she's got one of a herd of about 100 cattle grazing with this gorgeous 10 point buck standing right in the middle of them. There were a few others mixed in there too....from little guys to grown adults.

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RE: How do deer know? - 10/19/2009 2:13:07 PM

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Time to thin out the herd.

now Hunky...the Pennsylvania game commission has implemented birth control injections to the does (i am not kidding)

We do that on Fire Island since there's no way to hunt unless you own your own boat. And the population without any predators (no cars) zooms out of control.

Always sad to see them starving to death.

And yes, always deer and wild turkey in the horse pastures eating the spilled grain and the hay.

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