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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/2/2009 9:54:05 PM

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FR, after read thru

Okay, first I had to laugh at the notion of trying to blackmail Letterman for garden-variety nookie, he'd be at the bottom of my list of people I might possibly think would be shamed / embarrassed / whatever enough to cough up blackmail moolah . .. . . lol . . . . Dude's been practically salivating over every good-looking female sitting in his interview chair for all these decades now; that tendency is part of the charm, & watching how the savvy femmes play with it . . . . . & it took him forever to 'settle down', which tends to imply that he has, um, shall we call them 'bachelor' tendencies -- he's a wild-&-crazy guy (Czech accent optional) . ... . .

I went & read thru the coverage in TMZ.com & the extortionist was the ex-boyfriend (recently broken up) of a woman Letterman admits having fooled around with prior to the birth of his kid (circa 2003, by his wife tho' they married after the baby -- this whole story gets complicated really fast) . . . .

& the previous flame-employee broke up with her boyfriend & said boyfriend had access to her materials (correspondence or whatever) that demonstrated that she & Dave had been doin' the nasty back in the day, so boyfriend made his play. The extortionist's reported to be a producer for the television news show 48 Hours -- wow!!?!?!

As to that whole sexual-harassment thing, *scoffs* . . . . The entertainment industry tolerates a higher level of screwing around between coworkers, even subordinate & boss, than would be true of lots of other industries . . . . . It's not necessarily a certainty that legal action will stem from this, but I also suspect that any employees Dave fools around with are suitably bought off. It's really only the stupid-tightwad super-rich Don-Juan-employers that have to have problems . . . . . .

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/2/2009 9:56:42 PM

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It was a producer for 48 Hours... go figure.

Personally, i enjoy powerful, overbearing, fun loving guys!!

but im warped too... lol

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 7:01:33 AM

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When is our culture going to get over thinking sex between consenting adults is bad?

Or that anyone else's sex life is our business?

My theory--a whole lot of people aren't getting laid enough, and resent those who are.

That depends on if one or both are married, in those cases, consent is required to be obtained from all partners and we know that does not happen
So there is no "consenting"

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 7:18:22 AM

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If you've got the time and interest to worry about who's sleeping with whom, enjoy. Everyone needs a hobby.

Unless I'm somehow involved, I just have better things to do.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 8:20:40 AM

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the only part of this that's of vague interest is whether it was te grumpy-ass chick in the baseball jacket whom letterman paid undue attention to, and did she give up da rosebud while bent over his desk?

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 10:57:43 AM

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To my understanding none of the female participants was the blackmailer. It was some male who had the evidence of the affairs. As long as it was consensual and his long time girlfriend (now wife) knew and was OK with it, it's nobody's business.

Yes you are correct about the blackmailer... we have to wait to see if the woman was evolved...But I believe you are wrong to think it is no ones business. It is the Boss's business to be ethical.

I don't mean to be high and mighty about this...I am just saying that problems like this always seem to arise out of boss employee affairs and should be avoided by responsible people.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 4:03:37 PM

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Once again.. does no one think of the lawsuit factor in sexual harassment? People do not HAVE to have sex with their bosses. Responsibility is on both sides. The last time I had sex against my will I was not a teen. I have learned how to say no and mean it. It is a skill that fewer people have these days. I tend to think it is because we live in a world of "its not my fault". And that is something that really irks me.

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To my understanding none of the female participants was the blackmailer. It was some male who had the evidence of the affairs. As long as it was consensual and his long time girlfriend (now wife) knew and was OK with it, it's nobody's business.

Yes you are correct about the blackmailer... we have to wait to see if the woman was evolved...But I believe you are wrong to think it is no ones business. It is the Boss's business to be ethical.

I don't mean to be high and mighty about this...I am just saying that problems like this always seem to arise out of boss employee affairs and should be avoided by responsible people.
Butch

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/3/2009 4:55:02 PM

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It's being reported the alleged blackmailer had monetary problems:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20310030,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 6:03:40 AM

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Fucking the boss so that you'll get preferential treatment is also unethical.

Damn, now you tell me.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 9:26:28 AM

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Once again.. does no one think of the lawsuit factor in sexual harassment? People do not HAVE to have sex with their bosses. Responsibility is on both sides. The last time I had sex against my will I was not a teen. I have learned how to say no and mean it. It is a skill that fewer people have these days. I tend to think it is because we live in a world of "its not my fault". And that is something that really irks me.

What if you were a single mother supporting your kids with a job that supplies health insurance and enough money to keep a roof over your head. In these tough times do you find it possible that this woman may be terrified of losing her job if she rejects her bosses advances.

What if you were a boss and an employee seduced you then used the knowledge she obtained in this relationship to blackmail you into preferential treatment.

It does happen...even with the best of intensions of one party or the other.

How many relationships have you had that ended with a smile and a handshake…right…Now imagine having to work for or with that person after the relationship ends… It is never pretty and that is why many companies have rules against this behavior.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 9:41:11 AM

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That's all well & fine, & then we have the entertainment industry, where sleeping one's way to the top is part of the culture. See, for example, the recent hubbub when Megan Fox slammed the 'casting couch' thing while she was doing the promotional tour for the recent Transformers movie . . . .

The 'bosses' of a movie, for instance, are the producers (they sign the paychecks) & the director & there is a long, rather illustrious history of both producers & directors 'sleeping with' the leading ladies & / or preferentially selecting leading ladies from their love objet du jour . . .. . I'm not sure if I've ever heard of a sexual harassment lawsuit coming from any of that . . . . .

So. If we contextualize Letterman into the industry he works in, his behavior has actually been rather exemplary . . . . . (In that he refused to cooperate with the blackmail, or be terribly ashamed that he fucks around with hot young production assistants. Seriously, that's one of the perks of that particular industry, & especially for someone in Dave's position.)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Once again.. does no one think of the lawsuit factor in sexual harassment? People do not HAVE to have sex with their bosses. Responsibility is on both sides. The last time I had sex against my will I was not a teen. I have learned how to say no and mean it. It is a skill that fewer people have these days. I tend to think it is because we live in a world of "its not my fault". And that is something that really irks me.

What if you were a single mother supporting your kids with a job that supplies health insurance and enough money to keep a roof over your head. In these tough times do you find it possible that this woman may be terrified of losing her job if she rejects her bosses advances.

What if you were a boss and an employee seduced you then used the knowledge she obtained in this relationship to blackmail you into preferential treatment.

It does happen...even with the best of intensions of one party or the other.

How many relationships have you had that ended with a smile and a handshake…right…Now imagine having to work for or with that person after the relationship ends… It is never pretty and that is why many companies have rules against this behavior.

Butch

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 10:02:28 AM

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No it just means he is irresponsible...there is no justification for this behavior...as a supervisor. The fact that he handled the blackmail properly does not relieve him of his responsibility.

I think he just felt he was big enough to forestall any action against him by his employer...his wife already knew… and thought if anything it would boost his ratings.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 11:44:09 AM

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Well, & thus we have laid out the structure of why entertainment figures have been decried for their immoral ways since well before Fatty Arbuckle & Charlie Chaplin . . ...

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 1:11:40 PM

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Well, & thus we have laid out the structure of why entertainment figures have been decried for their immoral ways since well before Fatty Arbuckle & Charlie Chaplin . . ...

And I’m jealous as hell....

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 2:37:51 PM

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No it just means he is irresponsible...there is no justification for this behavior...as a supervisor. The fact that he handled the blackmail properly does not relieve him of his responsibility.

I think he just felt he was big enough to forestall any action against him by his employer...his wife already knew… and thought if anything it would boost his ratings.

Butch

What about the firl he had sex with. Do you think she bears any responsibility?

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 5:28:07 PM

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sorry wrong place

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/5/2009 10:03:17 PM

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so was it eve semi "non-nilla" sex or not? if it was a goddamn BJ, who cares?

was it stuck up cranky-wants-to-be-her-queer-friends-bitch i the baseball jacket or not? If not, who cares, for this site, since that tart was the only non-nilla on the Letterman payroll.

Did he give her a big gapin' swollen fig-worthy donut-hole or not? was there anything non-nilla or not?

if it's all "not" versus 'knots"..

we have "not" any reason to CARE.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/6/2009 8:45:56 PM

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FR, after continuing read thru

Well, pertinent to the issue of employer policies, sexual harassment, etc, & the Letterman extortion case, check out:

CBS 'No Secrets' Policy Doesn't Apply to Dave

CBS has guidelines on the conduct of its employees -- the Business Conduct Statement. ...

That said .... Dave is not an employee of CBS. He's employed by Worldwide Pants (WWP), his production company. WWP says, "We have a written policy in our employee manual that covers harassment. It is circulated to every employee every year. Dave is not in violation of our policy and no one has ever raised a complaint against him."

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/6/2009 9:38:09 PM

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I'm actually considering having non consensual sex with all of you.

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RE: Letterman's Extortion - 10/6/2009 10:15:13 PM

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Two. And I still work for my last x. The thing is though, everything I do is my choice. I do not buy into the current mindset of victimization that is so prevalent in our litigous society.

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How many relationships have you had that ended with a smile and a handshake…right…Now imagine having to work for or with that person after the relationship ends… It is never pretty and that is why many companies have rules against this behavior.

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