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There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/29/2009 9:30:35 PM

Eivarden

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Hello!

So... I decided to change up my search a bit.

I thought hard on it, and decided I'd find someone I was more compatible, if I narrowed down my options. (Could very well be 0 search results, but at least it should be someone more compatible.)

Then it hit me... under Gender on CMs main page, you can only CHose between;
Any
Male
Female
Couple
Trans.

Now, if I wanted to look up F>M transsexuals, I figured I'd put in "Trans" then "Straight".

Every search result was male transsexuals, M>F.

So I changed my search so they were Gay, then Lesbian, then Bisexual, then All.

No matter what, I always got M>F Transsexuals.

Do F>M call themselves transsexuals?

Does CM support such an option?

Or dis it they just don't bother with sites like this?

Even if so, why did my search show M>F even when I put "Straight" and "Looking for Male Sub" together?

I'm a bit confused.

If there are any in these threads, or if anyone knows of any, what should I look under?

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/29/2009 10:31:37 PM

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If you're looking for a person who looks like a woman, but is packing a penis... That'd be transsexual (at least by CM definition). There is no search or self-identity option for which gender one leans more toward.

Sorry, Kiddo.

In a quick search for transsexuals.. I find just as many cross dressing hairy men as very pretty, androgynous or feminine types.

For the record, is M>F men who have become females, or people who have more masculine traits than feminine?

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/29/2009 10:45:19 PM

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No, I'm talking about a woman who becomes a man, not a man who becomes a woman.

F>M = Female to Male.

The transsexual you are talking about is the opposite of what I mean.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/29/2009 11:28:04 PM

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There really isn't very many of them to begin with.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 12:01:46 AM

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@Arpig:

I'd have to disagree with that. I have plenty of 'king' friends that would cheerfully explain how many of them there really are.

@Elvarden: I'd suggest trying a GBLT dating site and narrowing by 'BDSM' not the reverse. Better results that way. CM is an awesome site, for some things, but not for everything.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 4:33:03 AM

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quote:

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@Elvarden: I'd suggest trying a GBLT dating site and narrowing by 'BDSM' not the reverse. Better results that way. CM is an awesome site, for some things, but not for everything.

Thank you. ^^

I wouldn't really narrow it down to BDSM. ^^;

But I'll start looking.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 7:37:06 AM

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quote:

I'd have to disagree with that. I have plenty of 'king' friends that would cheerfully explain how many of them there really are.

Well transsexuals are a very small group to begin with, and I was under the impression that the majority of were M->F. I may be wrong, I didn't do any research into it, but still just by definition there aren't all that many trans people, let alone trans people into BDSM.

ETA.....
A quick bit of research and it appears I am correct:

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P. Wilson, et al. conducted a study among all general practitioners in Scotland during the late 1990s. Among patients over the age of 15, the study found a prevalence of 1 per 12,200 patients with an approximate sex-ratio of 4 MTF (male-to-female) to each FTM (female-to-male) patient.

from: http://www.religioustolerance.org/transsexu7.htm

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 8:03:48 AM

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I think I have seen one person listed as F-->M.

Not every transexual identifies themselves as such.
Sometimes they identify as the gender they are now.
Does the physical gender they began as (at birth) matter a great deal to you?

So, if you are looking for someone who used to be a woman and is now a man, you might have to look through the men.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 8:39:26 AM

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Arpig,

A lot of F to.Ms I know, would not register on a study like that, because they self identify, and bind their own breasts and pack a rubber cock rather then getting phalloplasty surgery that simply is not at the level of medical advancement as the surgery available for M to Fs.

As the technical advancements come for surgically creating a penis we will see the real numbers of F to Ms out there.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 8:40:24 AM

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And often many M2F or F2M will and do identify as the gender they are transitioning to even if they haven't had the reassignment surgery.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 11:00:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

Arpig,

A lot of F to.Ms I know, would not register on a study like that, because they self identify, and bind their own breasts and pack a rubber cock rather then getting phalloplasty surgery that simply is not at the level of medical advancement as the surgery available for M to Fs.

As the technical advancements come for surgically creating a penis we will see the real numbers of F to Ms out there.

Again, entirely possible and plausible. I really have no idea as to the actual numbers involved or the quality of the surgical procedures involved. I will readily yield to your knowledge of the subject.

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 12:24:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Eivarden
Now, if I wanted to look up F>M transsexuals, I figured I'd put in "Trans" then "Straight".

Are you going to change your sex from male to female to suit those needs?

If you want a woman that has changed sex to a man why not just look for a man? Are you thinking that even though he thinks himself a man you can still see him as a woman and hope he sees you as a woman when you are a man?

I've never been so confused, perhaps I am missing an obvious explanation?

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RE: There is an option not listed on CMs search options?! - 8/30/2009 1:45:57 PM

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Yeah, I figured most people would assume I like F>M for the base sexuality, when I should get a man.

Actually I'm not attracted to the look at all. (Took time to get used to their new looks. But it also helpped I knew one pre-op and knew her through the process.)

It's the mentality of those I have been friends with before, that I'm in love with. The common personality traits I've seen in them.

I've dated one who was pre-op. She just cross dressed.

And I know I've never liked anyone as much as I did her.

But for me to explain it better, I would have to step on some toes, which I would rather not.

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Are you going to change your sex from male to female to suit those needs?

Actually, If that's even what she wants, and we are really compatible, I would do it for her.

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Not every transsexual identifies themselves as such.
Sometimes they identify as the gender they are now.

Yeah, this was the issue with the ones I have been friends with, If I slip and say "her", or "she", man they would get so mad at me.

I was kind of worried that would be the issue. Makes it hard for me, but then again, I figured it was only because they were gay. So if they liked guys, they tell us they were Transsexuals.

So far the sites I checked for, have come up empty, but I'll keep going.

But thank you to all those who have replied. ^^

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