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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/12/2009 6:50:21 AM   
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Whilst trying to restrain me or place me in a small closet especially one with spiders in may not be considered edge play by the BDSM community it is inherently dangerous to both myself and to those who make such an attempt. last time a so called friend tried it with a couple of friends as a joke, all three of them ended up hospitalised with one still not able to walk properly. Personally, I call that definitely edgy especially as they were well aware of my claustrophobia, fear of spiders and combat history. However in the general reference terms of BDSM edge play I have always believed that Edge Play includes such things as knives, axes, razors, needles or other potentially life threatening situatioins such as asphixiation but then I may well be wrong in this.. 

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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/12/2009 9:43:33 AM   
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A cacophony of calliopies, my wretched?

done in my best michael caine


Okay..that was just hawt. I love Michael Caine.  :)

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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/13/2009 1:02:24 AM   
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It is rare that you and I stand so vehemently on opposite sides of a fence. I thank you for your eloquent reply. Suffice it to say we agree to disagree. Your advice about research to the OP was well put and always a sound course.

If we ever do have a pissing contest, I’ll bring along lots of apple juice and a passel of receptive slaves!

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

The reality of most terms comes from Webster’s and it isn’t my definition “trumping” others… it is reality vs misunderstanding. I even listed the source for much of that misunderstanding. But don’t take my word for it, check this link:
http://www.reference.com/browse/Edge+play

I commend those that truly answered the OP by listing actual types of play that fall into the definition. Even the wiki link was a boon to reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgeplay

I have great respect for LadyPact, Mercnbeth and Darcyandthedark and do not fault them for being mistaken or accidentally making an inattentive comment. However, I stand by Webster, Wiki and my 39 year history of understanding in the BDSM community as to what the fuck edgeplay means.

I stand by what I said in my original reply. Edgeplay has nothing to do with personal comfort. Although LP’s claustrophobic subject feels “closet play” is edgy, closet play will never be considered edgeplay anymore than light bondage will.

Whether it is “closet play” with claustrophobics or pushing a skydiver with vertigo out of plane while performing light bondage, during a thunderstorm, over a sea of sharks . . . although that could be considered “edgy” to those individuals, it is not what the BDSM community means by edgeplay.


Again, Eric, I'm going to disagree.  While I appreciate you citing your sources, they literally boiled down to the same source word for word.  It's not that it's a bad definition, it's that it's also not complete.  Even in listing it, no where does it say it refers to potential physical harm alone.  There is also no singular definition of edge play in the BDSM community.  While it's easier to take those activities that many consider edge play and make that the only definition, it also makes it less than entirely correct.


Speaking of the "BDSM community" here are some definitions that I've pulled from others.  By the way, these are all references from your own book list.  (You know, the one I pimp out when you're not around for those less experienced folks while you're away.  LOL.)


"Scenes that are designed to push us up to and/or beyond our known limits are know as 'edge play".  Pg 189, "Screw The Roses, Send Me The Thorns" by Miller and Devon.

Index from the same book:

Edge Play - Erotic role play near or at the edge of a submissive or dominant's limits.  The term also refers to activities that carry a higher than usual element of risk.

From "The Loving Dominant" by John Warren, Appendix F:

Edgeplay - These are particularly dangerous BDSM practices that are looked upon with some trepidation.  Because there is no formal "ruling body" in BDSM, what is called edge play is up to the individual.  Therefore, sonething that to one person might be considered edgeplay might not be edgeplay to another.

"Edge play is erotic role-playing near or at the "edge" of a submissive's or even a dominant's limits."
pg  194 from "The Art of Sensual Female Dominance A Guide for Women" by Claudia Varrin.

And, as in the thread that I had linked for reference:

"The edge in edge play is found wherever your edge is, wherever  things start to feel  risky, where you start to feel vulnerable, the edge of the cliff that looks over your own personal abyss."  pg 196 "The New Topping Book" by Dossie Easton and Janet W Hardy.


So, obviously, there are a good number of folks in the BDSM community who have varying definitions.



For the OP, don't misunderstand the intent of this post.  It wasn't written as some kind of pissing contest between Eric and Myself.  We just happen to both be the type that, after doing this thing that we do for some time, we've (not us personally) had a lot of discussions that have brought us to our own definitions.

And to tell you the truth, that's exactly My recommendation on the way you should do it, too.  Never be afraid to ask.  Get all of the input you can, apply it to you, and form what works for you.






 






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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/13/2009 1:20:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: beargonewild
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
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ORIGINAL: fadedshadow
because it'll show how much of an idiot i am, but i need to know.
what is edge play?


Anything that takes you to the edge of your comfort zone so it depends on the individual.
Knives aren't edgy for me.
Dentists or oral examinations are.  Oh and listening to Celine Dion.
 
the.dark.


Would you like me to send you her entire library of music???  



I never took you for such a hardened Sadist Bear.

(edited to clarify that in owning or having access to that entire collection certainly establishes your credential as the most accomplished Masochist I ever met in my life )

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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/13/2009 3:31:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

It is rare that you and I stand so vehemently on opposite sides of a fence. I thank you for your eloquent reply. Suffice it to say we agree to disagree. Your advice about research to the OP was well put and always a sound course.

If we ever do have a pissing contest, I’ll bring along lots of apple juice and a passel of receptive slaves!



Always the gentleman, Eric.  It's one of the reasons that I enjoy such debates with you.

Oh, and I'll bring the asparagus!


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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/14/2009 11:10:43 PM   
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"asparagus"
... your cruelty never ceases to warm my heart.

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RE: I hate to ask this - 8/15/2009 10:06:17 AM   
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thanks everyone

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