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Lostkitten3 -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/2/2009 10:22:16 AM)

I see nothing wrong with 16 and 18 year olds stripping. I'd rather it wasn't my daughter, but it's just a naked body dancing. And drooling men giving her money to watch. Prostitution and rape and murder I have issues with. Underage drinking and stripping, not so much. I would much rather laws to protect them when they do these things than trying to outlaw behaviors.

Personally I feel it's a sin to try anyone under 21 as an adult, but it happens all the f-ing time. They have no idea how much life they have just ended. And they need psychological help, not juvenile hall, which will guarantee to make them criminals for life.




thishereboi -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/3/2009 4:29:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lostkitten3

I see nothing wrong with 16 and 18 year olds stripping. I'd rather it wasn't my daughter, but it's just a naked body dancing. And drooling men giving her money to watch. Prostitution and rape and murder I have issues with. Underage drinking and stripping, not so much. I would much rather laws to protect them when they do these things than trying to outlaw behaviors.

Personally I feel it's a sin to try anyone under 21 as an adult, but it happens all the f-ing time. They have no idea how much life they have just ended. And they need psychological help, not juvenile hall, which will guarantee to make them criminals for life.


If you see nothing wrong with it, then why not your daughter? Why is it ok for the kid down the street, but not your kid?




dvart -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/3/2009 4:47:24 AM)

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I know we have to draw a line somewhere when it comes to the age of consent...but 16 is just too young...hell 18 is too... Yes there are places in this world where young girls already have 5 kids at that age...but thank heavens we are civilized.


But it's apparently OK to send fourteen year olds to prison for the rest of their natural life....

Yes, very civilised.




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/3/2009 5:11:38 AM)

A few points:

Very few strippers make $1500-$2000, especially in the last 18 months since many people have less of their income to spend on it.

Some clubs are nothing more than a cover for a brothel. If you look at any stripper review sites, and they say "extras" that is what they mean.

The reason most teenagers are not mature by the age of 16, is that they have not been prepared. Our recent culture seems to want to keep their offspring uneducated about the real world for as long as possible.

If you don't want your daughter stripping, then apply persuasion and good education of life to try and avoid it. In the end it is their decision, even if they have to wait another couple of years to put it into effect.

There are some heavy psychological issues that stripping can bring out. This has to do with the rejection factor of being told no many times before someone say yes to a table dance, it effects their self esteem so hopefully the parents have helped them to be confident and strong against this. The power a female can have over males may go to their head. Some of the worst of the male population frequent strip clubs, so they are subjected to some pretty foul behavior. Working in the bar environment makes it more likely to drink lots of alchohol, and that can be a problem. There are others, but those come to mind immediately.

My slave dances, and has done so for 8 years. It can be a grueling business emotionally, mentally and if you are a pole dancer, physically as well. Someone that is going into this business needs to do so with eyes wide open, and a good understand of the possible pitfalls. One that I forgot to mention is the sudden and significant increase in income can cause many to not understand that it will not last forever. beauty fades with time, and there are many former strippers that now work in some of the same clubs, as waittresses, bartenders, and house Mom's. A small amount may make it to manager, but that is not the norm.

I was in the business for several years, and I saw many young, nice girls come and go. I watched some get torn down, and begin to emulate the behavior or other girls that were "helping" them. Many I saw taken advantage of by many people in the industry. In the vast majority of clubs, there is a  profound sadness in many of the people and once you recognize it, it becomes depressing.

I am not so sure that at 16 a girl can make a well informed consent to get into this.Most have not been prepared to be an adult by their parents. In our lifestyles many of us speak of informed consent, well that applies in life and hopefully they do so with eyes wide open.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/3/2009 8:04:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FullCircle


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
Laws regarding minors are passed based on the statistical maturity of kids.


You mean 100% of kids are not mature hence they are classified as kids and not adults? I don't think you need a bell curve to figure out what the statistical maturity of kids is IMOSVHO.



Yep, pretty much 100% of the kids. There are a few that do have the maturity necessary to make informed decisions. Interestingly enough, those few would choose a different career path.

When people think of these clubs, they think of the kinds of places you see on television or the high end "gentlemen's" clubs that are in some areas. Most of these places are hole in the wall dives where the patrons (read seedy guys) are not simply placing the tips in the hip strap of a dancer's g-string or in a garter on her leg or her hand. I'm sure at least some of you have heard the term "stinky finger."

As OrionTheWolf said, it is a really tough business and many girls are doing "extras" to make the cash. How hard do you want to work to get a guy to give you a buck? I have known many dancers in my life and worked in a number of clubs as a bartender (stripping was not my thing). If I had a nickel for every dancer that said she was doing it to pay her way through college, and then she was getting out, but never did, I wouldn't have to work another day in my life.

On a side note, I have a great respect for those ladies who really know how to pole dance. That is something I've always wanted to learn how to do, and I'm always amazed to watch.

In the end though, anyone who thinks it is ok for a minor to be stripping in a club, if you have children, you shouldn't, and if you are a man who enjoys watching, I hope someday you are arrested for being a pedophile.




kdsub -> RE: Legal “loophole” in Rhode Island permits 16-year-old strippers (8/3/2009 8:18:38 PM)

Perhaps we should allow them to come live with you... since you are civilized.

Butch




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