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Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 7:58:45 AM

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This is terrible and avoidable! Do you feel that canine handlers should face stiffer penalties than an average citizen that may not be aware of the danger associated with leaving animals in a vehicle? I understand there have been three police dog deaths in the US this year as well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul/21/police-dogs-heatwave-died-prosecute

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 8:55:35 AM

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That is ridiculous! Aside from the humane aspects, which is appalling, if I was a taxpayer in their district I would be filing charges of damage to government property. Those dogs are not inexpensive to obtain.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 12:31:02 PM

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exactly!

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 12:51:33 PM

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We had a SGT in one of the local departments who left his canine in the vehicle for 13 hours before he realized he "forgot" the dog was inside. Sheriff Joe wanted to go after him, but the politicians made it all go away. Here in AZ, in the summer, triple digit days are the norm. Hell, we've been there for the last two weeks this month!

As far as I'm concerned, the guy should have lost his job, not just his position as K9 supervisor, and should have been charged just like anyone else out there. Sheriff Joe is hell on wheels when it comes to animal cruelty....unfortuantely, all he can do is arrest and charge someone, the County Attorney's office is the one who makes the decision to prosecute...they figured he'd suffered enough or some such bullshit like that.

Oh, and his reason for forgetting his PARTNER?????? He had a family emergency to take care of at home with his son. He took his equipment with him, how the hell one can forget a 100# dog is way beyond me. It was negligence, pure, plain and simple.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 1:55:36 PM

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Sheriff Joe is hell on wheels when it comes to animal cruelty....

He apparently wasn't bothered when his cowboy SWAT deputies raided the wrong house; set it on fire with tear gas canisters, than forced a fleeing dog back into the house:

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And in the ultimate display of cruelty, a SWAT team member drove a dog trying to flee the home back into the inferno, where it met an agonizing death.

Deputies then reportedly laughed as the dog's owners came unglued as it perished in the blaze.

"I was crying hysterically," Andrea Barker, one of the dog's owners, tells me. "I was so upset. They [deputies] were laughing at me."

Making fun of the 10-month-old pit bull puppy's death wasn't enough.

Arpaio's goons then left the dog's body to rot in the ashes for the next five days of 105-degree temperatures. A pall of death hung over the neighborhood. It was a putrid reminder of Arpaio's reckless use of force and callous disregard for the public's welfare. Not to mention the heinous treatment toward the terrified dog.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-05/news/dog-day-afternoon/full

Fuck Joe Arpaio, I hate that fucking cunt. He is a despicable human being. I really don't understand why people like him so much. We are debating how to pay for a badly needed new county jail here. I can't count how many redneck morons have written letters to the editor demanding we build a tent city like that badass, Sheriff Joe. It makes me sick to my stomach.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 4:36:17 PM

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Coppers are all too keen to implement the law on offenders, but if they also break the law, knowing full well what they do is a crime, they by the fact they are more knowledgeable, should also accept stiffer penalities. Being a cop is not just about telling others what to do, but they hold a responsibility, they are the public front between the plebs and the law makers, they fail in what they know to be a crime, then they in their exalted position should accept an exalted punishment.

If they get lower than what many would expect given their position, then obviously, it smacks of favouritism, because of the offenders position, which is a no no ina society which needs to respect those charged with implementing the law.

The law should hit those who implement the law harder when they also succumb to human frailties and fail in their duty to uphold the law as regarding themselves.

If a police person cannot police themselves, what use are they in policing others.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 6:14:05 PM

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Hardly. Being a cop is about always being right, even when you're wrong. It's about getting to decide who the Bad Guys are. It's about having a free pass, and exploiting the HELL out of it.

I dunno if everyone else has been paying attention to life, but bullies win. Might makes right - because any sense of "right" other than "might makes right" is utterly irrelevant if it doesn't try to enforce itself - and guess what? Enforcement is just more "might makes right".

Ahh... cool, comforting nihilism. How I missed you.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 6:41:01 PM

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SB4Y....I have to apologize....I never saw that story, the only excuse I have is it didn't obviously make the local press news here, The PHX New Times is not a regular newspaper. And I tend not to read the papers or watch the news, I get most of the stuff first hand thru work. I never said Sheriff Joe is perfect, on the contrary, I'd like to see him gone, the guy is old and, I swear, senile. Why or how he keeps getting elected into office is beyond me, I'm guessing it's the whole illegal immigrant thing....AZ's are fed up with supporting them, especially when the budget is all messed up anyway...but we won't go there.

Had that story made it to the local news, the people here would have been clamoring, yet again, for Sheiff Joe's resignation. Wouldn't have done any good, if the feds can't stop him, we mere citizens can't. The man has gone past his prime, I wish that we could get someone else down here.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 8:26:25 PM

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SB4Y....I have to apologize....I never saw that story, the only excuse I have is it didn't obviously make the local press news here, The PHX New Times is not a regular newspaper. And I tend not to read the papers or watch the news, I get most of the stuff first hand thru work. I never said Sheriff Joe is perfect, on the contrary, I'd like to see him gone, the guy is old and, I swear, senile. Why or how he keeps getting elected into office is beyond me, I'm guessing it's the whole illegal immigrant thing....AZ's are fed up with supporting them, especially when the budget is all messed up anyway...but we won't go there.

Had that story made it to the local news, the people here would have been clamoring, yet again, for Sheiff Joe's resignation. Wouldn't have done any good, if the feds can't stop him, we mere citizens can't. The man has gone past his prime, I wish that we could get someone else down here.

No need to apologize. I wasn't directing my rant at you, sorry if it seemed that way. I just hate the SOB. I have a friend that lives in Phoenix, and she spent a little time in that "tent city" for fraud. I just started reading up on some of the goings-on in that department, and it amazed me that he keeps getting elected. He routinely harrasses journalists and local politicians with his deputies. I read a story about his deputies getting into a confrontation with a journalist when they were scouring public records in a city office looking for dirt on a city government leader. The journalist wanted to see what they were looking at, the clerk said under FOIA he could. The deputies threatened to arrest him, and taunted him to try it. The city attorney and city police showed up, and a confrontation ensued between the city police, the city attorney, Joe's thugs, and the journalist. I'd be embarrassed if that crazy bastard was my Sheriff.

He's had several inmates die while in custody of his jail. The county has settled several lawsuits in the millions of dollars with inmates' families because of these deaths, and other's because of physical abuse, denial of medical care, etc. He's just a bully.

On the immigrant thing, I understand the frustration. But he doesn't send them back when caught, which is what the INS does. He keeps them in jail to teach them a lesson. So people in your county are paying for them ultimately. He isn't teaching anyone shit with his tactics. The criminal recidivism rate has not budged significantly since his tenure. It's all populist grandstanding to get his mug on the television and papers. He likes the attention; most bullies do.

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 10:12:26 PM

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SB4Y....he harasses EVERYBODY! I really honestly have no idea how he continually gets away with it. Every time he's on the news with some other stupidity, I just shake my head and change the channel. He is too old, and too stupid to continue doing his job, but we AZ'ans can't seem to get rid of him. I think most folks are just waiting for him to kick the bucket......or get taken out by a drug cartel.......which, according to him, they have attempted to do so already. Quite frankly, I think it's just another TV ploy for attention....the drug cartels don't tend to miss!

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RE: Police responsible for dog deaths - 7/22/2009 10:28:12 PM

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SB4Y....he harasses EVERYBODY! I really honestly have no idea how he continually gets away with it. Every time he's on the news with some other stupidity, I just shake my head and change the channel. He is too old, and too stupid to continue doing his job, but we AZ'ans can't seem to get rid of him. I think most folks are just waiting for him to kick the bucket......or get taken out by a drug cartel.......which, according to him, they have attempted to do so already. Quite frankly, I think it's just another TV ploy for attention....the drug cartels don't tend to miss!

Besides which, why would the Cartels want to get rid of him? He makes things insanely dangerous for the street-dealers, which drives up prices and lets them make a killing. He's doing them a favor.

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