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Submitting without knowing it? - 7/9/2009 3:01:02 PM   
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Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?

Just a thought after a comment made by a friend
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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/9/2009 3:07:44 PM   
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well, yes actually.  the dynamics of D/s exist far far outside of bdsm.  in fact there's a lot of just Dominant/submissive relationships out there.  ild hazzard to say that most are.  while there's also give and take, there's also in almost every relationship a primary decision maker.  same thing

"Lifestyle" poeple just tend to take that a little further.  deliberatly.  :)

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/9/2009 3:45:45 PM   
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Yes. People submit everyday and don't call it submitting or bdsm. It's just a part of life.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/9/2009 3:47:53 PM   
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Yes. People submit everyday and don't call it submitting or bdsm. It's just a part of life.

i agree...and the same goes for dominance.


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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/9/2009 6:09:54 PM   
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Yes, this happens. Which is why when an s type figures out that she/he is drawn to D/s the big light bulb goes off and they have the aaaaaah moment where they realize they've been submitting in many ways in many areas of life.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 2:57:50 AM   
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I agree. I also think that maybe some people just do what they love and are not that concerned with labels:)

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 5:08:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PsychoBastrd

Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?

Just a thought after a comment made by a friend

zaphira would have to say yes. Think of those who are and are not in relationships and have no knowledge of BDSM, M/s, D/s, or O/s.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 6:37:53 AM   
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Sure, lots of us will admit we are naturally submissive and acted in accordance to our personalities before discovering the word submissive.

People aren't perfectly happy being in power equal relationships until they discover the wikipedia definition of dominant and submissive and then suddenly change their personality totally.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 7:36:30 AM   
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Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?

Just a thought after a comment made by a friend
Sure it is.  Just as it is possible for a male to dominate others without realizing he is doing it.  My brother is a good example of this, although his ways tend more towards the domineering side rather than the dominant side.
As noted, there are often times when a friend will ask you to do something and you will go ahead and do it because you like doing for others.  Now, does that in itself indicate a submissive nature?  No, because that would then imply that a dominant does not like doing for others unless it is at his initiation.  In my work and in my personal life, I have requests made of me quite often...Doc, could you get this for me or Hey Bro, would you do that for me?  When you look at it in one way, my doing these things is a submissive act BUT when looked at in another way, it is part of my nature to try and help people (tis one reason I chose the profession I did).

Can this knowledge be used to bring out the submissive nature in someone by a dominant?  Sure it can.  It is ironic but I had a fairly long conversation with a submissive last night and one of the things that came up was this very thing.  We were discussing how submissives become tied...so to speak...to certain dominants.  We discussed physical ways that can happen, things that occur during the complexity of BDSM play-sex-D/s interaction-during-the-play that can intensify the dominant-submissive bond and, in some cases...depending on what one is seeking from the encounter...strengthen the relationship between the two parties as well as the D/s dynamic  We discussed mental things that can occur...simple little things like asking a submissive to look something up for the dominant and printing out what they have looked up and putting it together for the dominant.  Now, on one hand that can be seen as just "doing something for a friend".  If, however, the dominant making the request is also a dominant who the submissive interacts with not just on a friendly level but on a more "intimate" level, it can also be viewed as a submissive act that is occurring outside the bedroom/playroom.  Especially if the submissive knows on some level, even an unconscious or unaware level, that she wouldn't do it for every dominant she knows...and especially if she knows at that same unconscious or unaware level that she would not even do it for every dominant that she plays with.  This awareness of a submissive's nature is used by scrupulous, honest dominants who are genuinely concerned with building a deeper relationship with a submissive just as it is also used by those unscrupulous dominants who want to take advantage of a submissive's deeper submission...and thus deeper yielding and willingness to go along with more in the play and/or service arenas while the dominant holds back on his responsibilities.  If you don't think this happens, go back and find those threads by happy submissives who "weren't quite sure how it happened" but they'd wound up in a marvelous D/s or M/s dynamic.  Look at those threads where some submissives became happy slaves without realizing it until they were there.  Visit those threads where the submissive WAS aware of what was happening and who marveled at the way it was handled by a skilled, responsible dominant.  But also, if you don't think this happens, revisit some of those threads in which submissives have started out by stating how some "bastard, wannabe" dominant drew them in, drew out their submission, took over control easily and then, once they had all the goodie, disappeared or...if they hung around...began finding things that the submissive was doing "wrong".  As I said, it was an interesting and long discussion because she could relate to some of what I was saying and I could also relate to it, having done some of that same drawing in myself...like almost any other dominant.

So, my answer to your question is...as noted...yes.  And like many here, I see where submissive and dominant acts occur every day without there being an awareness of what is going on.  But sometimes, even the awareness does not necessarily indicate the nature of the person.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 7:49:32 AM   
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Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?


Men and women submit every day in different ways to different people, governments, and other entities. It can also happen in more personal relationships if a person is wired to be submissive. It is just who they are and it comes naturally, just like us D types. Most of us have been Dominating in someway without realizing it.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:10:51 AM   
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Put any 2 people together and one will submit most of the time and the other will dominate.  I find it strange though that the dynamic changes depending on the situation.  I have found this is true even in D/s relationships that are strong.

When my sub/slave is the expert in an area then I will follow her lead.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:24:02 AM   
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Does being a slave to fashion count?

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:37:49 AM   
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Submitting as well as Dominating with out concious awareness or labels attached happens a lot more often than many people realise in the outside world. 

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:47:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PsychoBastrd

Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?



My therapist has told me on several occasions, it is a different type of submission. but I do submit.
 
At this point in my life, I have had to submit to the demands of the medical/safety needs of  parent.
I am literally a domestic servant, driver, grocery shopper, chief cook and bottle washer as well and personal assistant and private duty nurse with no reward.
 

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:49:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RealSub58

quote:

ORIGINAL: PsychoBastrd

Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?



My therapist has told me on several occasions, it is a different type of submission. but I do submit.
 
At this point in my life, I have had to submit to the demands of the medical/safety needs of  parent.
I am literally a domestic servant, driver, grocery shopper, chief cook and bottle washer as well and personal assistant and private duty nurse with no reward.
 
the reward comes later...when you have the comfort of knowing you did everything you possibly could to make their life easier.


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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:49:47 AM   
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Yes and I have done that. Late hubby nor I were familiar with BDSM or people living in D/s or M/s. We also didnt adorn ourselves with labels. We just were and lived naturally.

I did not hear about BDSM until I met my friend. After spending time reading posts, it occured to me that late hubby and i were Ds. Interesting point though it never occured to us to put labels on how we are and who we are to each other. That would have been foreign to us. We just were being us naturally.

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 9:59:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PsychoBastrd

Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?

Just a thought after a comment made by a friend


Judging by the compaints on the boards here: there are a lot of males and females who think they are the Dom, when in fact their submissives are domming them.
 
So yes, apparently it happens all the time.


Some people have an amazing lack of self-awareness.  

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 11:13:01 AM   
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Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?


if women can claim that they have given birth without ever knowing they were pregnant...then why not?

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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 4:03:50 PM   
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Is it possible for a woman to submit without realising she is actually doing it?

Uh... yes. People, in general, submit frequently without realizing they are doing so.


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RE: Submitting without knowing it? - 7/10/2009 4:19:40 PM   
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Sure.  I've pretty much always done this in my relationships whether my partner wanted it or not.  It wasn't until after i realized this, and how much i enjoyed it, that i finally figured out maybe i should maybe try to find someone who would enjoy it, too!

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