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RE: Information needed about Bi-Polar disorder - 6/25/2009 10:25:59 PM

LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I'm out of here. The op twists words, rejects any info or suggestions that don't accord with her preconceived notions and most importantly is wedded to the idea that she is the savior. Anything that would help that doesn't make her the good guy is to be rejected. Hopefully the father gets some good help in managing his child from top notch professionals.

Actually, the only suggestions that I rejected were yours and the suggestion that he be committed. I did that because he has been committed in the past and it has worsened the situation. I've never attempted to be this kid's savior or the "good guy." I have a degree in Social Work and a background in Law and Sociology. I've stated flat out that he needs both a new therapist and a new psychiatrist, however, his father like his current pyschiatrist basically because she's been treating the boy since he was 8 years old. What I have done is to help this boy realize that he isn't a "guinea pig," and that in order to get better he needs to take an active role with the pyschiatrist and more clearly discuss why he doesn't like his current meds. I've also tried to help him realize that he may need to go through a whole lot of therapists to find the right one. This is not only common practice, but also common knowledge.

Yes, people are court ordered into anger management, AA, NA and a whole host of other things on a daily basis. But if you ever bothered to look at the statistics, you would find that rarely do those court ordered appearances really work. The "really good" treatment centers are cost prohibitive for the "general population" and instead all they are able to afford are facilities where the meds are typically increased and therapy is nearly non existent. Are you aware that the statistics on drug addiction facilities indicate that for them to be truly effective, one must be an in patient for at least a year, yet most people are lucky if their insurance will cover 30 days. Based on your responses, I doubt that you have ever read any statistics on these things.

Each patient responds differently. A great therapist for one person will be the worst therapist for another. The trick is being able to find the right one with limited possibilities. You stated all YOUR facts, yet beyond having a child with behavioral/mental issues, what are YOUR qualifications? Do you have any, or do you just regurgitate what your child's therapist tells you?

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RE: Information needed about Bi-Polar disorder - 6/25/2009 10:36:26 PM

LafayetteLady

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LafayetteLady, has anyone ever sat down with his father and examined the way they communicate? I am not saying that anyone is at fault here, but sometimes the way people approach certain things and they way people communicate greatly change the outcome and behavior. (Just like him and his psychatrist and not comming out with the outcome both would really like.) The fact that you two seem to get along so much better (while you still appear to very much be an authority figure in his life) makes me wonder if changing the way him and his father approach things might help. I don't know that his father would be very open to it, but perhaps you could suggest behavioral therapy? A good behavioral therapist should work with both parent and child in the way both communicate and interact with each other.

There is definately a problem with the way father and son communicate. The son has asked for family therapy since February and the father has failed to set it up. I have suggested to the father until I am blue in the face. A good family therapist would likely be very helpful. Of course, the son asking and the father not doing causes even bigger problems, creating a cycle. After the mother's death (parents had been divorced for years), things got much worse, but that isn't being dealth with. Meds without adequate therapy will only ever result in partial success. The young man hasn't gone through a string of counselors. Logically, if he doesn't like the current one, a new one should be tried, because we don't have a situation where he doesn't like any of them. He hasn't had the opportunity to find out who will work best with him. It is a problem. Hopefully, a problem that can be fixed in the not too distant future. When a parent becomes so frustrated with the situation that they are ready to turn the kid over to the state to deal with, someone needs to step in and see that it doesn't happen. The state does not have a record of successes in dealing with problem kids, which again is common knowledge.

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