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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/9/2009 10:35:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

This happened through craigslist some 3 days ago.

Fox New's Coverage

Is it bad that I'm not surprised by this at all?

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/9/2009 11:00:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

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Would anyone here do such a thing?

I do not know about anyone from here, but I did read an article in the news the other day about a man who put an ad up on Craigslist to have his wife raped at knife point while he watched. It was NOT consensual and she was raped in their home while hubby watched and their two children were in another room. Hubby is now being held on several charges and authorities are seeking her attacker.

Does it happen? Yes. There have been other instances of people putting up these types of ads unknown to the victim.

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Not to sound like I'm blaming the victim here, but nobody just wakes up one day and says "Hmm, nice day out, think I'll go online and find a strange guy to rape my wife today."
Clearly this guy has something seriously wrong with him and somebody (his wife in particular) should have been able to pick up on that and realize that he didn't need to be around anybody in society. Anybody who would orchestrate a violent crime involving an armed stranger with his own children in the next room has no business being near anyone's children, let alone raising them.
I just want to know why/how nobody (particularly the wife) noticed that this guy was obviously sick and did something about it?

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/10/2009 9:45:23 PM

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It's one of those ideas that sounds better as an idea than in reality - there are just too many things that can go South, and these are some good examples of it.

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/10/2009 9:57:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ravensnake

Yes I would and have done similar but then I'm into rough sex. However, I like to know a bit about the guy or guys and discuss concerns and limits first and no, I dont give out my address to strangers to 'come and get me'

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ORIGINAL: notnewnotexp
Would anyone here do such a thing? From either side of the coin? Is there anyone who would put an ad up saying you wanted to be raped (and give your address so someone could do it)? Is there anyone who would answer such an ad from a person you've never met?

Fantasies of being kidnapped, held as a sex slave, etc., by strangers is I think something younger women fantasize about more - in the end, if it's legit, then it's basically rough sex with an added element of surprise - I prefer things more straightforward, I like a woman who knows what she wants, and isn't afraid to ask for it.

But, I suspect, and this story confirms it, if you place and ad like this, somebody is going to take you up on it - I would insist on the explicit consent of the person involved, written of videotaped even, and even then, it's just not my style really. I think some of these issues have been addressed in previous threads on this subject.

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/11/2009 12:14:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: ChasingOblivion
I just want to know why/how nobody (particularly the wife) noticed that this guy was obviously sick and did something about it?

Because most people are not like “us.” They lack both the empathy and the knowledge of human nature to be able to spot such an individual.

As regards empathy, Most in our community need to be able to read people and understand them. From the sub side it is important in order to keep your Dom happy, and when a sub fails to read their Dom they will get significant feedback that encourages them to do better next time. For most Doms it is just as important to be able to understand our sub. After all no matter what type of sub we may have, if we fail to read them we fail to meet their needs. For many of us the subs needs are important. Even if the Dom is one who believes subs are just property they still need to be able to read the sub well enough so that they don’t brake them physically, or more importantly, mentally. After all a broken toy isn’t much fun.

In a Vanilla relationship you can be oblivious to your partners inner workings. A woman can get pregnant at 17 and marry the guy, because that’s what her religion and society expects. She can spend her time working at a job, taking care of the kids, and veging in front of the TV, while her husband sits down at the bar and drinks with his friends. Their sex life is a once a month “Wam, bam, thank you maam.” They may not even sleep in the same room and they may know nothing about each other. They need to have just enough empathy and understanding to not get on each others nerves, but since they spend less time with each other then they do with their co-workers, that’s not a lot.

Like wise we have the knowledge. I dislike using absolutes but in thiis case I think it is safe to say that there is not a single person in our community who doesn’t understand that there are people who enjoy hurting and humiliating other people. We are in a community that lives on the edge. We know what evil lurks in the hearts of men, or a women dressed in black leather. At the very least we know far better then Joe and Jane Vanilla.

The vanilla world does not realize that people they know can be mean, sadistic and evil. While they may see it on the news it is abstract, they do not think it can happen to them. They live in a mundane world with nothing to remind them that someone they know could hurt them. In our world that is the reality. It hits us in the face, and it hits the subs on the rear, and makes us all aware that some people enjoy hurting, degrading and humiliating other people. We are keenly aware that some people want power and control over others. Being in this environment we know what people can really be like. Since we live that much closer to the cliffs edge we are far more aware of the dangers and where we need to step.

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/11/2009 7:29:55 PM

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At the risk of revealing I sometimes watch too much TV.... I was watching an episode of Law & Order:Criminal Intent earlier this evening in which a woman was raped. As it turned out, the attacker had found her ad on a fantasy rape website and insisted he was doing it because she asked him to. Only it was someone else who put her ad and photos up without her knowledge or consent. I remember a while back seeing an episode of The Closer in which the same thing happened.

Would anyone here do such a thing? From either side of the coin? Is there anyone who would put an ad up saying you wanted to be raped (and give your address so someone could do it)? Is there anyone who would answer such an ad from a person you've never met?

1. I'd never do it without speaking with them on the phone and then meeting them first.
2. Video and written consent are a must.
3. There must be a few different safewords established for different purposes.. a. Something for "I am still a go", b. something for "you're hurting me..ease up a little", and c. something for "Stop, I'm done". And they must be memorized and practiced.
4. We meet in a semi-public place..but finish in a private location. In otherwords, sorry to ruin the mood, but I am going to capture you out in the open, but then take you to my studio to continue "the scene".
5. No screaming allowed. I am sorry, but I don't need people running over to try to break things up. My studio is private space, BUT the walls are literally paper, and neighbors can hear everything. A little bustling and moaning won't alarm anyone, but scream, and people WILL come running. Scream, and regardless of whether than happens or not, fun's over..Get out..

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/11/2009 10:09:24 PM

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I'm into rough sex & beyond : playrape, force roleplay, kidnap / hostage scenes etc. Over the decades, beginning with my first bottom a looong time ago, I've been fortunate to have found a good number of women who go for it. When I finally got into the lifestyle & the community afew years ago I somewhat suspected, naively , that most would be into it. Instead I found that most either got a glazed look&had no concept of the kink or turned their nose up at the idea. I've perused a lot of submissive profiles on this site & the percentage that are into it - from what I have observed ,understand - isn't high. However, I've seen perhaps a handful of profiles on this site which were almost ads such as described(I've seen both of those TV episodes, by the way, & we all know that TV gets more&more salacious&exploitative)) & they horrified me. If they were for real these people were looking for a very twisted form of power exchange, they actually wanted to hand themselves over to a stranger to be violently violated. I've actually had 2 contact me(one who lives closeby was graphic in offering what I & even my friends could do to her) which I found odd, as I do mention roleplay in my profile but there's nothing to indicate I'm looking for that kind of extreme play with strangers. Dangerous, indeed.....

Most of the bottoms(I didnt even know what D/s was at the time) I've done it with were clear that they relished , some even craved, rapeplay but only play & on terms negotiated by the 2 of us.The thought of rape terrified&sickened them. Fantasy fulfillment is still just fantasy to me. Real is real. I've heard&read stories in the media where a partner or an ex set someone up to be raped, obviously with a revenge motive or pure hatred, not to mention pure sickness but this one is unusual . &, I agree with a couple posters here - this story goes far beyond kink. The husband in question is a lunatic & has been an accident waiting to happen&finally did. & people do stand by & look the other way while things escalate, unfortunately. A guy I grew up with murdered his wife a couple years ago. A not uncommon &lengthy story of abuse&co-dependence&orders of protection & the cops took his guns away due to his threats against her&the kids. But in the weeks before he stabbed her to death he asked a half dozen people if he could borrow a gun or knew where he could borrow a gun & noone reported it to her or the cops&everyone knew he was nuts. I've known he was nuts since we were very young kids&would have blown him in ina millisecond, but all those people didnt& from what I can see they feel no responsibility(or likely more accurately, cant face it). But I'd bet that people saw a bad end coming with the people in this story&didnt take action.

I hope that guy gets what he deserves, & I hope she recovers &successfully gets past it........

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/12/2009 2:25:51 AM

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no. i would never do either end of that coin.Rape fantasies can be incredibly dangerous. A sub i know and love dearly wants to be raped. But not a fantasy, that would take away the elements of the rape if she knew it was a scene. I'm trying to talk her into a scene to get some of that out of her system because the dangers both physically and as far as the law is concerned are very large. The whole concept of a rape fantasy should be approached very very carefully in my opinion.

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/12/2009 3:20:43 AM

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i love to drug my sub before i i rape them and i do that very slowly. rr poor thing. wink

What do you drug them with?

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/12/2009 4:56:08 AM

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As i read you post, i was thinking about the women who are married to men, who have one or more then one woman killed and i asked me the same, as i saw an interview with one of them. Are they really so good camouflaged or are the women are deciding to not see the signs?

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RE: Rape Fantasy - 6/12/2009 8:22:22 AM

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This is getting away from the original topic, but before I came into the lifestyle force roleplay was my main kink. Even as I started exploring&observing&learning about the endless facets&twists&turns of D/s&M/s I would argue that its not edgeplay : "Come on, I've been doing it with partners who were more than willing for almost 40 years!" But I've come to learn that, to very many, it most definitely is edge& something ro be handled very carefully.

On a similair note & in response to intoxicatinggirl - through most of those decades of topping I thought nothing of drinking&inhaling when topping but one of the 1st lessons I learned was not mixing play - whether private or public - with anything mind altering, & I dont&wont......

& thats an age old question, ZenDragoness.There's far too many sick, dependent&co-dependent relationships & they can be built on so many levels of denial. So many people are terrified of being alone & are unable to make a moral or ethical stand. Not to sound totally cynical but there may be more unhealthy marriages&LTR's than healthy ones........

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