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Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 8:57:12 AM

LadyPact

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I think I've finally figured out what it is that bothers Me so much about the resurrection of old threads. It's not the topics being brought back. Some of them are quite good and the discussions had very interesting. Of course, when people bring the threads back and attempt to continue the discussion with those who haven't been on the site for some time, I tend to see them on the same level as those who walk into a room and try to speak to someone who left that same room months ago.

No. What bothers Me about it is the complete lack of creativity. The inability (or so it seems) to take a basic idea or topic and make it one's own. I mean, isn't that what we're doing anyway? None of us came up with this stuff originally, but most of us aren't doing things exactly the same way as anybody else.

I said recently in another thread that at least 95% of My material was something that I got from somebody else. I took ideas, knowledge, and concepts that I learned from others, added My own style and personality, and whatever it was became Mine. I didn't set out to duplicate. I wanted an expression of Me that couldn't have possibly come from somebody else, even if the original idea did.

Wouldn't one think that a good Top or Dominant have some level of imagination and creativity? Nobody has to be a rocket scientist to have these qualities (I'm certainly not) but isn't there a dash of these characteristics reflected in wiitwd?

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 9:18:04 AM

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Perhaps some newbs do a search for a certain term, see a thread that interests them, don't look at the date, and "answer" it.
I'm just guessing, but I could see that happening.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 9:20:52 AM

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yes i think that happens and also it's maybe a bit nerv wracking to start your own thread...what if they all come down on you like a ton of bricks or worse what if no one responds at all?

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 9:25:52 AM

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Very good points and seems like I seen this subject before? Just kidding okay?

Think the lack of creativity comes from some people being lazy and not wanting to think outside of the BDSM box. But I beilieve in the best of people and admire some one like you that can make a idea all their own. I am sure there are others out there that think the same way as well.

Some people like Fire and some like Ice too. Me I love to combine the two for different sensations. And soon enough another person like you will come up with something else super kinky and fun as well!

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:16:33 AM

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Wouldn't it be good if subs were also creative? And if their Dom/mes fostered that in them?

I agree totally about the Top needing to be creative. The ones that I have most respect for also give their Bottom room to come up with ideas and implement at least some of them. One of my favorite all time sessions started with two words: "Please me". I got to do whatever I wanted to in order to be pleasing. I loved that chance to show my creativity and know that no matter how many times that might be offered that I would be able to come up with new and different ideas every time. Some Tops feel so much of a need to be in control that they don't tap into the creativity of their Bottoms which could end up making for a much richer experience for both, whether session based or relating to the rest of their relationship.

(Just my creative opinion.)

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:24:08 AM

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Of course it could also be that "I've got an idea.....".... searches.... "Oh, someone else thought of it first.. I'll add M/my thoughts..."

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:24:13 AM

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Actually, chamberqueen, I find that to be a wonderful story!

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:27:17 AM

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Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
There is a thread just started about online relationships. The first reply basically tells them that it's been covered before.

So we have two sets of thinking. One, people want others to start threads original to them and not drag up old threads to add to them. The other is people telling others not to bother posting a new thread about an old subject.

Which is the better option?

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:34:25 AM

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Communication communication communication.

Let's have both, and decide which ones we dont want to read.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:42:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

So we have two sets of thinking. One, people want others to start threads original to them and not drag up old threads to add to them. The other is people telling others not to bother posting a new thread about an old subject.

Which is the better option?

the.dark.

How about C -- research all the old threads but don't post in them. Then, if the person still hasn't found a satisfactory answer, start a new thread that's specific to the information s/he's trying to find.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:49:02 AM

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Hello the.dark. My best to Darcy.

I don't see as what I'm saying here to fall into either option. What is wrong with research AND creating something new? I highly doubt there is any particular aspect that someone, somewhere hasn't covered before. Like I said earlier, none of us came up with these things as original thoughts. It's our personal expression involved in wiitwd that makes it ours.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:52:50 AM

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Even using the search function brings up it's own issues. So new people cannot post on old threads? I get that it can be tiresome, but new posters have just as much right to post their ideas as the next. Either way they get slaughtered by one or the other side.

If they post in response to an old thread, they get moaned at for dragging up an old thread.

If they post a new thread with what some people see as old ideas, they get told, been there done that topic already.

There is a thread on the Masters forum I posted years ago when I was new to the forums that was resurrected and honestly had some cool additions. Just clicking my name would have produced a no show because we have a joint profile now, but if people had not ignored that, the thread may not of gotten jerked, then who knows? I just find it unfair to berate a new poster for using or not using the search buttons, when all it takes is for seasoned posters who are bored with old thread to simply not respond and stop reading the minute it's an issue. Proud and LA used to be the thread jerkers and that always worked well and there was definately less issues with old threads when there were threadjerkers around. Maybe that is what CM needs - even when CM doesn't realise it?

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 10:57:45 AM

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Does it really show how much of a CM addict I am that I know what thread you're talking about? LOL.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 11:03:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Hello the.dark. My best to Darcy.

I don't see as what I'm saying here to fall into either option. What is wrong with research AND creating something new? I highly doubt there is any particular aspect that someone, somewhere hasn't covered before. Like I said earlier, none of us came up with these things as original thoughts. It's our personal expression involved in wiitwd that makes it ours.

Hello Lady Pact. Regards to you and I will indeed inform Master of Yours.

Maybe because it has all been done before?

I really do not believe that there is any new innovations. People like to think they have all the new ideas and be the first, but can anyone honestly say that it's not been done? It's like reinventing the wheel over and over again.

Like the thread on online relationships. It's their idea. It's their thoughts on the subject. They posted it. They know it may have been posted before, they stated it. It's their original thoughts - but they still get told 'its been talked about before'. No addition, just a statement of fact that they already guessed.

What may seem like a lack of creativity, may simply be a disagreement on what is creative - again, there is a thread discussing the merits of what is or isn't artistic over on off topic. Or maybe its a lack of empathy on the part of many people to see it as an original and creative idea for someone else.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 11:10:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Does it really show how much of a CM addict I am that I know what thread you're talking about? LOL.

It was funny seeing my 'old' name again though. Not that it is much different, but my posting style back then was sooo different.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 11:19:24 AM

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I am going to try to make sense here... What I tend to notice, whether it is this way or not, this is how I see much of it, is that many times it is someone with a fetish who wants to bring up the fetish and hasn't yet found a way to bring it up on their own. What I mean in part is that they want to read about it, not always talk about it. They seem to feed off of what others are saying.

There was a thread not long ago in the mistress section where someone kept trying to encourage others to bring it back to life. It was a very long thread and yet this person kept saying things like... why did this thread stop, so and so... why don't you say something. I mentioned in the thread that maybe that person should say something about the topic and they didn't. But again posted that so and so should, they wanted more, of a good thread.

That does irritate me. I recently posted in my journal something about those that complain about this site. Now we all have had our moments when we vented and such, but I am talking about the chronic complainer who by the way is still here complaining... about every hour in some cases. I say in my journal that maybe we need to stop giving power to the bad guys or things and be a part of the good stuff that goes on. Post on the message board, take part in making CM better rather than sit at your computer and bitch. I kind of see the old threads and some who bring them back as in some cases.. not taking part... just feeding off of. I relate it to someone who wants me to keep a conversation going without anything to say in it and yet they want to blame someone because the conversation isn't going where they want it to.

Sometimes I see a thead being brought back when it seems someone wants to say something and often times it seems that they are trying to use it to show something about themselves. It isn't always a seeking for information, but wanting to put some out there and that is all well and fine, but you do wonder about the creativity to use LadyPact's take or word here... There could be many reasons they do this from not knowing how things are viewed, how to do things or whatever, but to those of us here all the time, it comes off differently.

There was a point I had that concluded what I was saying...lol... but it is gone! ding ding... I may have to leave it and come back to it. Sorry...

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 2:23:56 PM

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Some of us aren't terribly creative. Beyond that, when we hit a snag in our relationship it probably is a snag that millions have hit before. Nothing creative in trying to juggle jobs, household, um rearing, private time, couple time, etc. Just problems which lots of us hit.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 2:33:07 PM

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Adding to what DES said, when I first came to these boards I never even considered looking at the dates of threads before posting on them. I probably resurrected some very, very old threads as a result.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 2:58:50 PM

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There's only so many ways to word or do something without it eventually becoming the same thing as something else already done or said.

.........it's all been done before.

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RE: Creativity and the lack thereof - 5/11/2009 3:58:26 PM

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I'm creative, I just don't have anything I want to ask, or share about myself right now.

I get the point tho, it's annoying to see a thread from months ago reappear.

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