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Kirata -> Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/8/2009 8:46:29 PM)

Increased Food Intake Alone Explains Rise In Obesity In United States, Study Finds

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The researchers found that in children, the predicted and actual weight increase matched exactly, indicating that the increases in energy intake alone over the 30 years studied could explain the weight increase....

"For adults, we predicted that they would be 10.8 kg heavier, but in fact they were 8.6 kg heavier. That suggests that excess food intake still explains the weight gain, but that there may have been increases in physical activity over the 30 years that have blunted what would otherwise have been a higher weight gain," Swinburn said.

He emphasized that physical activity should not be ignored as a contributor to reducing obesity and should continue to be promoted because of its many other benefits, but that expectations regarding what can be achieved with exercise need to be lowered and public health policy shifted more toward encouraging people to eat less.

K.





Lorr47 -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/8/2009 9:13:20 PM)

We overlook the axiomatic when dealing with weight.  I have been sick with old people's diseases since I was 55.  One illness was kidney failure and kidney stones.  During these sicknesses I gained about 70 pounds.  I thought the weight gain was due to sickness and inactivity.  Then I became depressed because a recent tumor operation was a failure and the tumor returned; the first operation cost over $10,000 and I do not have insurance.  I was sleeping as much as 20 hours a day.   A doctor gave me the newest anti depressant and all it did was make me violently sick and sleepy.  Then one day I saw Ephedrine in a gas station.  I had taken it in the past to stay awake when I was working 81 to 139 hours a week.  Now, I have been taking it again for a month.  It kills my appetite and desire for food of any kind.  I have lost 32 pounds in a month with no change in lifestyle. I do not recommend it to others because of the damage it may be doing.  However, the reduction in food intake made me lose weight.  Kind of make sense that if you eat less that you will lose weight.  I had lost sight of that basic rule. Duh!




marie2 -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/8/2009 9:15:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

He emphasized that physical activity should not be ignored as a contributor to reducing obesity and should continue to be promoted because of its many other benefits, but that expectations regarding what can be achieved with exercise need to be lowered and public health policy shifted more toward encouraging people to eat less.



Gotta agree with this.  Excercise is a good thing, but it doesn't mean you can just keep eating whattheheckever.  Our mindset today with food is the culprit, I think.  It's not the caveman days, we don't view food as fuel, we view it as a celebration.  I don't even mean junk food and fast food, I mean the way we see food as entertainment and enjoyment, the cooking shows on tv, the recipes on the magazines, etc.   Going to a party...it's centered around the enjoyment of cooking, serving, having friends over, and enjoying food and drink together.  Even our cleaning products and toiletries are food scented, Almond and honey lotion, pomegranate shampoo, peaches n cream conditioner, good Christ almighty.  It's either lots of exercise and the veggie platter instead of the fattening cheesey things, or live on Marlboros and diet pepsi. 




Joseff -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/8/2009 10:26:54 PM)

Yes, eat less, lose weight, what a concept. I gained about 50 pounds a couple summers ago. It happened when I was out of work for an injury, and all I could do was sit on the couch, eat, and take pain medication for about 6 months. The real surprise for me was, after being back to work and active again for 6 months, I didn't lose one pound.  The sad truth is, we eat more because we can. Humanity has never been as prosperous as now, and our bodies are not evolved for plenty. And the only real solution would be to go back to leaner, harder times. Nobody realistically wants to do that.




housesub4you -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:15:46 AM)

Well, people have been saying this for years, control your portion size, however....you can't make money just telling people to eat less.  I mean they can make millions selling us pills that do not work, videos for walking more, videos for walking less, well you get the idea.  

Just start with eating less.....Hmmm..today when I go to the Steak House for dinner, I think I will order the 6oz filet and not the 16oz Porterhouse






UglyTruth -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:22:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Joseff
... Humanity has never been as prosperous as now, and our bodies are not evolved for plenty. And the only real solution would be to go back to leaner, harder times. Nobody realistically wants to do that.


I don't think that's the only solution. Plenty of people have found some success with Paleo-type diets and intermittent fasting.




hlen5 -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:26:27 AM)

Our bodies are engineered precisely for plenty. In times of plenty our bodies store for the times when food is scarce. Bodies that can bulk up will survive the leaner times. Survive during the leaner times and it's YOUR genes continuing the species.

I don't mean to imply it's OK to eat til you explode, keeping a healthy weight is the ideal.

Edited for last sentence.




darklight17 -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:34:00 AM)

Okay I just wanted to break this down in case anyone is reading for weight loss.

If you cut approximately 500 calories a day, you will lose about 1lbs a week.

If you do that and exercise enough to burn 500 calories a day- that is 2lbs a week.

Now before some of you start to get smart and say, "Well gee, if I cut even more calories then I'll lose even more weight!" Not so fast. Your body goes into starvation mode if it doesn't get a reasonable amount of nutrition. Check the NIH for calorie calculators and BMI indexes. Starvation mode will make you store more of everything that you eat, and thus, your body fat will increase.

Some people will need major overhauls on diets. Sugars, carbs, and excessively fatty proteins are difficult to cut once you have a taste for them. Try steaming some vegetables and dressing them up with soy or tamari sauce.

Drinking green tea is a wonderful boose to the metabolism.

My point is, eating less is good. Exercise time is even more important with increasingly sedentary lifestyles. You should avoid ephedra and many supplements because of NEGATIVE health ramifications! Just remember, it isn't a race to look better, but it's a way to make your life better in the long run.




DanaYielding -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:39:19 AM)

unfortunately it is known that eating less often results in the body going into survival mode. The body responds as if famine is taking place and goes into a storage mode for fuel that may be required later. The metabolism is better served by eating a healthy breakfast and a light lunch and a snack, and a light dinner. Europeans have it right as they make breakfast the biggest meal of the day. Westerners tend to make dinner the biggest meal which explains much of the obesity in western society. Eat and be inactive. Yes, of course diet (not diet as in lowering one's intake but moreso making that intake healthy) and excersize, more than anything else, is the way to be healthy. I know many who consume a great deal of food without the caloric intake, or burn that caloric intake through activity, so eating less by itself is really not the best way to go.




DanaYielding -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:41:09 AM)

my apologies to darklight. He has preceeded me in this area.




MistressCara -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:45:10 AM)

1lb is equivalent to 3,500 calories
so think of that when you next open the biscuits!

this is my place to brag - I lost 4 and a half stone last year through mostly food restriction - as Im too damn lazy to exercise it all off, lol
uk size 16 to uk size 8

ner ner

ok bragging over




housesub4you -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 3:12:23 AM)

Eating less does not mean starving yourself.  You can cut your food intake and still eat more than enough to not go into starvation mode.  Look up the daily limits on food and you will realize

1.  Meat portions should be about the size of your fist.  Now how many of us eat the whole dam steak, and then gnaw on the bone??  I know I do

2.  Alcohol is nothing but useless calories, and will add untold inches to your waist..  At least it does to mine

3.  Veggies are not your friend when you cover them in butter and cheese

4.  Eating out is one of the worst things you can do to lose weight. 

I went out to eat a few weeks ago with some friends and when I got home I checked the web site for the salt and calorie count of the food I ate.  It was a pasta dish, over 12000 calories and 8400mg's of salt   It was chicken and pasta, what a killer meal




tazzygirl -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 3:20:20 AM)

If anyone is interested, there is a new TV show on here called.. Cook yourself thin...  some really interesting tricks to take calories out of normal foods.  Lifetime is running it where i am.  Amazon has the book (of course there had to be a book lol)




ShellyD -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 4:04:44 AM)

I have experienced weight loss with decreased food intake. I was injured at work and have been taking oxycontin for 20 months now which makes me nauseas and have nil interest or appetite for food, especially evening meal. I have also gone from a very active physical job to sitting all day and was worried about putting on lots of weight, so fortunately the appetite loss has been beneficial. Now I  do eat purely to put energy into my body/ keep the blood sugars up. Now if I was able to exercise I could be thinner and toned......[sm=banana.gif]




Louve00 -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 4:10:53 AM)

Here is another good reason for calorie restriction. Not only can you lose weight because of it, you can live longer, too [:D] 
      http://www.livescience.com/health/080708-fountain-of-youth.html




DerangedUnit -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 4:21:35 AM)

its not hard to lose weight if your not picky about how fast it comes off start but just changing what you drink yo just water you'd be surprised how many of our daily calories ar from fluid intake i lost 30lb in a month my restricting my diet to yogurt for breakfast 1/7 of a plain chicken breast and veggie 6" sub from subway(so one lasted me a week) and a different vegetable for dinner every night then a piece of fruit as a midday snack that by itself is a healthy way to quickly lose weight to get the same results if you have a low metabolism like me you have to add exercise into the equation i was doing 6 hours a day besides work and school at the time but thats alittle extreme so find a comfortable pace and its easy just dont get sidetracked it takes discipline but if you stay with it its easy enough




DerangedUnit -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 4:27:39 AM)

oh yeah and once a week you have to get at least 15grams of fat in one sitting or your gall bladder will shut down so once a week treat yourself lol




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:07:39 PM)

Not every one will loose weight by eating less and exercising. It is rare, but there are some people with medical conditions that make this not so, and before any one pooh poohs this, it's been proven. There are people That this one true way fits all will not work for them.




barelynangel -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:26:15 PM)

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Not every one will loose weight by eating less and exercising. It is rare, but there are some people with medical conditions that make this not so, and before any one pooh poohs this, it's been proven. There are people That this one true way fits all will not work for them.


While this is true in some cases its really a RARE concept to occurance that people are born with diseases that causes them to gain weight just from eating healthy and exercising daily or have medical conditions just having them that causes them to have trouble losing weight.

But to me, part of the issue in the US especially is too many people have jumped on this concept of it MUST be something medical as an excuse for not losing weight or in many cases simply making the lifestyle change they need to do to accomplish it. Most people however have a "medical condition" its called not willing to sacrifice what they want to have what they want -- i.e., giving up the food that makes them gain weight and be unhealthy for a lifestyle of eating and exercise healthy. Its hard to make such as choice and sacrifices when our society is all about pleasure principle of people and trying to get them to buy things that well aren't really healthy for us, just watch commericals or listen to them.

What's also ironic is many of the issues that cause people to have trouble and presume medical conditions is the initial gaining of the weight and the amount of weight that is gained and kept for years instead of people doing something about it before it becomes a problem.

I do agree though that eating less isn't necessarily the way because of how most of us were raised it doesn't mesh with our understanding of food. I think it has to be combined with eating differently and seeing food differently.

grins, i just wish someone could have created us with this pleasure principle of working out lol instead of eating. I envy people who LOVE to work out -- grins ironically, i am waiting for a pill to be invented so i can eat my exercise lol.

angel





NuevaVida -> RE: Eat Less, Lose Weight (5/9/2009 12:30:17 PM)

Correct, YHMY, but I would say the majority of overweight people, myself included, is the result of overeating.  In the society we've become, we often don't even realize we're doing it.  Look at how fast food was on a trend of Jumbo-Sizing everything.  Going out to eat?   Is your local spaghetti shop having an "all you can eat" special?  Food is out there - everywhere - and we are encouraged to get more for our money - and eat all we want!

I had a very frank conversation with my doctor some months back, when I asked about lap-band surgery.  He said he wouldn't do it.  He said it's really simple - eat less calories than you burn and you'll lose weight. 

Last February I joined Weight Watchers, inspired by some friends who were successful with it.  To my surprise, going out and ordering a salad can be way more caloric than you think!  I've learned a lot about eating, more than I (arrogantly) thought I would.  I've lost 25 pounds since Feb and my next weigh-in is on Tuesday, and I expect to see more weight-loss then. 

It's not just portion control - it's eating the right thing, too.  Want a salad?  Eat to your heart's content - without the croutons, added cheese & bacon bits, and creamy dressing.  Don't glop butter on evreything.  Eat whole grains instead of processed grains (more fibrous).  Plan your meals - bring your lunch to work instead of going out to eat.  Or, if you're going out, decide what you're going to eat BEFORE opening the menu (grilled chicken instead of bacon & bleu cheese wrapped steak).  Going to Mexican food?  Order whole beans instead of refried (think, dumped in fat), and skip the rice & sour cream.  Substitute with adding salsa (fat free!) to your food.  Don't eat that entire basket of chips (sometimes that's so difficult for me I tell them to not bring me chips at all). 

Like your beer?  (I love my beer)  Amstel Lite is the best lite beer I've tried.  Hard liquor with diet soda is better than drinks mixed with juice.

I just finished eating a plate of orange roughy (not fried), brown rice and sauteed spinach/garlic for lunch.  I'm quite satisfied and don't feel I'm sacrificing flavor for anything.  It takes some self-education and awareness, but we really can choose to eat healthy, in smaller portions, and be happy.




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