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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 2:32:30 AM   
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Some notes on cock sucking, and the training of.

Firstly, do not train yourself with anything that doesn't have a stopper. A stopper would be a very wide base (compared to the shaft) which will prevent the object from getting lodged in the throat and being very difficult to remove. Think of a butt plug, they all have stoppers. This rules out almost all vegetation. Bananas can be especially dangerous because of their weakness to horizontal pressure. It's too easy to break it and have it stuck deep in your mouth. You don't want to die this way.

Kind of bashfully, I admit I've tried some dildo sucking. Keep in mind, I struggle swallowing pills. I'm really pathetic at it, but I did find some ways that show improvement. I taught them to my pet, and she does very well.

Anecdotal evidence, while laying on one's back, head over the side of the bed makes sense in theory, I've always found it slows progress up front. Yes, a person can probably deepthroat 20 inches that way, but we're worried about getting that first inch out of the mouth and into the throat. I suggest working with the system that's worked since Reagan's been in office - being upright.

I've found the first obstacle is a solid feeling, like the dildo (practice with a dildo if you're prone to biting) has no where to go. That's the back of your mouth, aim down, and any toy that doesn't have steel rebar will find your throat. Look up slightly to help this occur.

The very next obstacle is the gag reflex. The body tries to wriggle the toy out of the mouth with the tongue. If you force it, the body dry heaves. Depending how hardcore you enjoy being (and how much you like the sound of gagging) forcing it will open the throat, and when you feel like you're going to puke, the toy will slide in a bit. A more... tasteful method is to be extremely slow and relaxed. Breath out in a deep long pant as you push it in. (Like a reverse yawn, this will create an open channel).

This is a good time for a break to talk about width. Size matters, and I'm led to believe wide cocks feel great. Just not in this hole. If your sire is packin' consider getting a more... svelte toy. We have an anal training dildo which is only an inch thick.

Back to the lesson. Don't try pushing your tongue out. That's a great way to isolate the throat, but in the beginning it causes gagging earlier. I find it best, when learning, to keep the tongue flat, over the bottom teeth, but behind the bottom lip. It's a bad habit to form because the back of the tongue will block access to the throat, but in time your body will begin to naturally let the tongue out, in turn granting access to the throat.

This does take time. There is not question this is a month long project which shows very little objective improvement. You're trying to get that first inch... inch and a half. After that, it's a different battle entirely.

Don't despair, you'll know if its feeling better or not. Expect good days and bad. Also, expect breakthrough moments which cannot be duplicated. This will happen when it slides into the throat, then you gag and spit it out. You had it and lost it - that's a good sign. If you'd like continuing support and suggestions (not like that you perverts) my pet and I are around for questions. In the meanwhile, consider these tips on how to possibly improve your mouth-skills instantly.

Edit to address a second issue: Regarding how important deepthroating is, I refer again to the above link. In regard to the off topic (but worth discussing) issue of all men liking head: I've never met a man opposed to it. Obviously exceptions exist, but I consider the populous of men who think "Ikky! Mouths are for eating! EWW!" to be small enough to disqualify.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 3:20:38 AM   
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There is not much to add to HeavansKeeper advice which is absolutely brilliant but this...sometimes a big gulp of Creme de Menthe liqor prior to giving head can numb your throat a bit and add a totally lovely sensation for your Dom...it contains alcohol though so not everyone might like to drink this.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 3:43:07 AM   
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i won't use a blanket statement ever again, there may ONE guy that doesn't like getting head, but i still think i'm right.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 3:49:16 AM   
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The Man loves it. But he also enjoys some gagging.

The ex disliked it.

Oh and I still gag and I had my tonsils out many years ago.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 6:26:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

They now sell frozen chocolate covered bananas on a stick in the ice cream section--its a great way to practice, learn technique and equate oral with something that might not make you gag.

Yea, sure. I bet you 'discovered' this only because it was a good excuse to eat chocolate. Com 'on girl. admit it...

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/27/2009 1:56:37 PM   
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The gag reflex can also be trained, with oral techniques such as deepthroat ; lots of cock/strap-on oral, self-practice with dildo's, and also a great tip, brushing your tongue after brushing your teeth.

By going further and further at the back of your tongue, towards tonsils (if you have them, I dont lol) and further back each time. You will retch, but gradually relaxes and builds up a resistance to pharyngeal reflex thus deep throating I achieved with time.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/28/2009 5:15:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LilSubKat

we even bought stuff to numb my throat up and I still gagged.


What type of product did you use?

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/28/2009 1:31:12 PM   
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quote:

we even bought stuff to numb my throat up and I still gagged


Hey Kat..I'm wondering a little about the use of numbing stuff. Based on what I learned in nursing school (I'm in psychiatry now where this isn't relavent, but I'm just recalling what I learned in school), it seems like numbing the throat might put you at risk for aspirating (inhaling something other than air). In the hospital, we don't even give patients ice chips while their throats are numb. Probably you're using stuff that isn't nearly as potent, but do be careful with that, okay?

Additionally, I found the "tip your head back off the bed" technique to be really helpful (Thanks to whoever suggested it to me!). Even then, I really can't take all of my partner in unless he's not quite at his full glory. At the beginning of a blow job and after he's cum (he stays pretty hard afterward, I'm totally spoiled!). The reality is that my tonsils are in the way and his full width causes an uncomfortable collision. Oh! And while the natural reaction to something in the back of your throat is to try to swallow it, try to resist that urge. Swallowing something that won't go down, totally makes me gag.

Happy practicing!

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/28/2009 2:47:38 PM   
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my mistress orally trained me with her strapon  once i was good enough she introduced me to the real thing  love a lady in control ..have fun ..mal

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/28/2009 3:57:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Blackwolf9


quote:

ORIGINAL: LilSubKat

we even bought stuff to numb my throat up and I still gagged.


What type of product did you use?


I've not used it myself but a friend has mentioned using Orajel or Doc Johnson's 'Good Head' as being helpful to her. 

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/28/2009 5:22:03 PM   
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Ok well with the numbing stuff its called Oral Sex Pills its the same stuff that comes in Orajel just in a lower dose all it does is numb my cheeks -.- Thanks everyone for the advice I will definately consider the dildo and brushing my tounge too. I can stick a straw down my throat just NOT his penis.

Also, he does get off OTHER ways. This has always been a personal goal of mine because he has only had decent head from me the first girl that did it so many years ago bit him really hard and he did not go back to it again until me. Anway this has NOTHING to do with him putting me in danger at ALL. In fact last night he stopped  ask me if I was okay. He USED MY SAFE WORD when I couldn't even though I was not gagged. We've been together for almost 5 years and never once has he ever put me in danger or asked me to go over my limits and to harm me in anyway. He is always looking for my best interest and doesn't push me farther than he knows I can handle it. Thank you for your concern but it was un needed in assuming he was pushing me farther than was okay or harmful.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/29/2009 7:06:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit

well ive known guys who said they hated getting head  ...they didnt stay in that state of mind for long.


To suck or not to suck...

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/30/2009 5:48:47 PM   
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I totally agree with Antipode - practice makes perfect.  However, I must add that my skill improved dramatically when I had a man who could coach me through it.  Not sure how he knew these technical details, but he did.  One specific thing he did was to keep me calm.  When I started gagging he would physically hold me in place, but in a calming voice he told me to, "Calm down. Relax.  Don't panic."  Just calming myself made a big difference for me.  Nonetheless there ARE technical mouth and throat movements that enable him to go further down your throat and for a longer period of time (i.e. to hold it there).  Good luck.

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RE: Oral Training??? - 4/30/2009 5:53:14 PM   
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P.S.  My guy LOVES the gagging part.  Totally turns him on.

P.P.S.  In response to HeavensKeeper ... I have met a number of men who weren't interested in receiving or they did not want it very often.  Not a rarity in my world.  But glad to have someone now who likes what I want to give him.

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