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LilSubKat -> Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 9:58:27 AM)

Master wants me to go further in my oral training and I was wondering if there were betters ways to do it then just to inch by inch learn to take more of him in my mouth. I can't deep throat I gag entirely too much we even bought stuff to numb my throat up and I still gagged. I was wondering if there were other ways to train a sub to deep throat. He says I'm not bad at it he would just like to see me take all of it aswell and he would like any help in trying to get me there. 



kdsub -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 11:03:38 AM)

Will to me deep throating is just momentary...a side show...not the most important thing at all... But if that is what he wants then try to lie on the bed...on your back... with your head hanging over the edge. Let your head and neck relax. This will align the mouth with the throat. He can stand or kneel and gently thrust straight down the throat. This may help to alleviate the gag reflex.

Butch



soglia -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 11:07:45 AM)

I am in total agreement with kdsub.  Your head needs to be back as far as you can get it to go.  The gagging will actually decrease as your throat gets used to it.   Don't panic though there are so many things that you can do to make him moan in total pleasure than deep throating will.

soglia



antipode -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 11:16:42 AM)

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other ways to train a sub to deep throat


Suppressing the gag reflex is just a matter of endless trying and re-trying. The only other thing I can think of is hypnosis. The gag reflex is strong, and that is for a very good reason, but can usually be overcome.



GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 2:24:18 PM)

ask HIM to show you how by getting him to lay back over the bed and slowly take  an english cucumber........



MarsBonfire -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 2:30:03 PM)

Great cocksuckers are made, not born. If you can find a copy, look for a book called "Sex Tips For a Straight Woman From a Gay Man." It has a couple of really good chapters on the art, and spends several pages on this very subject.



LilSubKat -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 11:20:27 PM)

Thanks everyone a lot I think I will definately try to do the leaning back over the bed. He doesn't really even let me give him head often its more that he has always enjoyed watching girls deep throat. So I think its more entertainment then the wow factor but I will try that.



atypicalsub -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/25/2009 11:58:12 PM)

Two things:

#1 what position works best depends to a great deal on the shape and angle of the cock you are trying to take.  The position described with your head hanging off the edge of the bed is good *if* the guy's cock is basicaly straight with an upward angle.  Some men angle down, in which case I find it much easier to deep throat them from a position of kneeling in front of them.  Some men angle to the left and others to the right.  Going from the side they point toward makes it easier.  The over all objective is to get the best position for the cock to line up with the natural curve of your throat.

#2 do you still have your tonsils?  i can't verify this for certain but have been told by several gay men that those who can most easily deep throat without gagging are people who have had their tonsils removed.  this makes sense as it means there is more room at the opening at the top of the throat.




aravain -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 12:17:30 AM)

Consider it unverified...

I have my tonsils and can deep-throat pretty easily :)


Honestly atypicalsub's suggestion/note other than that is perfect, though.



CatdeMedici -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 3:57:44 AM)

They now sell frozen chocolate covered bananas on a stick in the ice cream section--its a great way to practice, learn technique and equate oral with something that might not make you gag.



marysdream -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 4:51:53 AM)

i believe there comes a point in "training"..where human beings should accept there partners abilities and not cause someone psychological damage over being able to deep throat! please.....this just stinks of the stereotypical D/s that is based solely on SEX! after all he can get off other ways ..mmm i hope!. please be safe kat..no erotic pleasure is worth you doing something that will cause harm. i am not sure from your post, whether, this is stemming from your need to please or his need to push your limits? either way...use common sense!
take care
ree  



crazyredhead1957 -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 6:40:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: antipode

quote:

other ways to train a sub to deep throat


Suppressing the gag reflex is just a matter of endless trying and re-trying. The only other thing I can think of is hypnosis. The gag reflex is strong, and that is for a very good reason, but can usually be overcome.



i practiced on a dildo.  i took it a little deeper each time and pulled back if i gagged, but made sure i put it back in right away.  i did this for an hour each time three times a day, as a task.  It took me about three days to do it without gagging, and another couple to do the "'f*cking action" fairly fast without gagging.  The plus is, a dildo doesn't mind the gagging while you're still learning.  Good luck.



mindtrap -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 7:56:02 PM)

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He doesn't really even let me give him head often its more that he has always enjoyed watching girls deep throat. So I think its more entertainment then the wow factor but I will try that.


Please don't take this the wrong way. All GUYS LIKE GETTING HEAD!!!!, if he's not that interested in getting it, give him better head. try wrapping your fist around his cock while he face fucks you, try removing one finger at a time so as to take in more cock. Move at a pace thats comfortable to you, eventually you'll say "Look no hands". And you will BLOW his mind. Please note i am talking from the recieving end not the giving. iii



WyldHrt -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:12:11 PM)

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Please don't take this the wrong way. All GUYS LIKE GETTING HEAD!!!!

As with nearly any blanket statement, this is not true. While the vast majority of guys like (hell, LOVE) getting head, there are some that simply don't. I've known a couple of men who not only don't ask for it, but will refuse when their girlfriends/ wives offer oral. There are always a few exceptions that fuck up the "All _____ like/ dislike ______.  [;)]



newtop -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:15:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mindtrap

quote:

He doesn't really even let me give him head often its more that he has always enjoyed watching girls deep throat. So I think its more entertainment then the wow factor but I will try that.


Please don't take this the wrong way. All GUYS LIKE GETTING HEAD!!!!, if he's not that interested in getting it, give him better head. try wrapping your fist around his cock while he face fucks you, try removing one finger at a time so as to take in more cock. Move at a pace thats comfortable to you, eventually you'll say "Look no hands". And you will BLOW his mind. Please note i am talking from the recieving end not the giving. iii



I disagree. I knew someone who absolutely hated it even though he was completely open to getting them. Sure sure, exception to the rule and all that, but I had to be a know-it-all busy body and tell you you're wrong. [:)]



DerangedUnit -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:17:33 PM)

well ive known guys who said they hated getting head  ...they didnt stay in that state of mind for long.



WyldHrt -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:33:21 PM)

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well ive known guys who said they hated getting head  ...they didnt stay in that state of mind for long.

Ummm... never mind [:D]



marie2 -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:43:46 PM)

I would just go more slowly and try to relax, and you might make some progress gradually.  But either way,  I doubt you can get yourself to a point where you're never going to gag.  Don't feel like a loser if you can't take it all the way down without the heave.  The gag reflex is, afterall, natural, and it's there for a reason and not something we're supposed to try and get rid of.

Oh, and I wouldn't practice on food objects or with any other object that could fit down your throat, or break off.  Anytime you put something (unattached) to the back of your throat, then of all things, attempt to relax and NOT gag, you are taking a huge risk.  It can slip, break off, and you can even inhale it.  So be careful with what kind of item you use for this purpose.  If you want to practice, use something that's too large to fit down there...ie a big dildo or something like that.



MrRodgers -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 8:48:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: soglia

I am in total agreement with kdsub.  Your head needs to be back as far as you can get it to go.  The gagging will actually decrease as your throat gets used to it.   Don't panic though there are so many things that you can do to make him moan in total pleasure than deep throating will.

soglia

You sound quite qualified young lady.

I also suggest that from any position, she can take it in to the back of her mouth and just before air is cut-off, take a deep breath, relax and hold it while easing him all the way down.

If you hold your breath, you'll likely not gag at all. Training and practice will teach breathing and throating.



aravain -> RE: Oral Training??? (4/26/2009 10:07:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mindtrap


Please don't take this the wrong way. All GUYS LIKE GETTING HEAD!!!!


Complete and TOTAL falsehood.



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